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The Avro C102 Jetliner was a [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] prototype medium-range [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] built by [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] in 1949.
It was beaten into the air by only 13 days by the [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien], thereby becoming the second jet airliner in the world, yet the name "Jetliner" was more catchy and for many years all such aircraft were colloquially given that name.
The aircraft was considered suitable for busy routes along the US eastern seaboard and garnered intense interest, notably from [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] who even offered to start production under license.
However continued delays in Avro's all-weather interceptor project, the [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien], led to an order to stop working on the project in 1951, with the prototype Jetliner later cut up for scrap.
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The Avro C102 Jetliner was a [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] prototype medium-range [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] built by [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] in 1949.
It was beaten into the air by only 13 days by the [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien], thereby becoming the second jet airliner in the world, yet the name "Jetliner" was more catchy and for many years all such aircraft were colloquially given that name.
The aircraft was considered suitable for busy routes along the US eastern seaboard and garnered intense interest, notably from [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] who even offered to start production under license.
However continued delays in Avro's all-weather interceptor project, the [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien], led to an order to stop working on the project in 1951, with the prototype Jetliner later cut up for scrap.
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History
Genesis
In 1945 [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] (TCA) started exploring a number of aircraft developments under the direction of Jim Bain.
[Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] of England had recently taken over the [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] "shadow factory" in Toronto, and starting exploring production possibilities with TCA for a two-engine turboprop aircraft like the [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien].
In the fall of 1945, Bain travelled to England to visit various aircraft companies, and during his exploration of [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien]'s engine department, saw the early work on what was then known as the AJ65.
The new engine, later known as the [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien], enthralled Bain and on his return to Canada he changed plans for Avro's development to use the new engine instead of turboprops.
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Over the next few months, the teams at TCA and Avro refined the requirements, which were signed off on 9 April 1946.
They called for a 36-seat aircraft with a cruising speed of 425 miles per hour (684 km/h), a range of 1,200 miles (1,900 km), an average distance between stops of 250 miles (400 km) and longest single flight of 500 miles (800 km).
The difference between the range and maximum airport distances was to allow for the required 45 minutes stacking and flight to get to a 120-mile (190-km) distant alternate airport in a 20 mph (30 km/h) headwind.
The aircraft also needed to be able to operate from existing 4,000 ft (1,200 m) runways.
Load was 12,700 lbs and 50 passengers.
Genesis
In 1945 [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] (TCA) started exploring a number of aircraft developments under the direction of Jim Bain.
[Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] of England had recently taken over the [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] "shadow factory" in Toronto, and starting exploring production possibilities with TCA for a two-engine turboprop aircraft like the [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien].
In the fall of 1945, Bain travelled to England to visit various aircraft companies, and during his exploration of [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien]'s engine department, saw the early work on what was then known as the AJ65.
The new engine, later known as the [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien], enthralled Bain and on his return to Canada he changed plans for Avro's development to use the new engine instead of turboprops.
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Over the next few months, the teams at TCA and Avro refined the requirements, which were signed off on 9 April 1946.
They called for a 36-seat aircraft with a cruising speed of 425 miles per hour (684 km/h), a range of 1,200 miles (1,900 km), an average distance between stops of 250 miles (400 km) and longest single flight of 500 miles (800 km).
The difference between the range and maximum airport distances was to allow for the required 45 minutes stacking and flight to get to a 120-mile (190-km) distant alternate airport in a 20 mph (30 km/h) headwind.
The aircraft also needed to be able to operate from existing 4,000 ft (1,200 m) runways.
Load was 12,700 lbs and 50 passengers.
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The agreement also specified a number of contractual terms that, in retrospect, appear especially odd. In spite of TCA's experience with contracting for the [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien], and Bain's personal arguments that [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] be used as a ward against budget overruns, TCA's contract with Avro demanded fixed prices for the entire development, as well as a fixed price for the aircraft of C$350,000.
Additionally, Avro was not allowed to sell the aircraft to any other airline for three years.
After that period, if a buyer paid less than C$350,000 for the aircraft, Avro would have to pay the difference to TCA.
Furthermore, during the testing period of one year after the first aircraft was introduced, Avro would have to pay all costs, even if paying passengers were carried.
Jack Dyment, chief of TCA's entire engineering department, suggested that Avro pay for the testing so that it would "permit us to learn how to successfully operate a jet aircraft without having to pay for such experience the hard way."
Additionally, Avro was not allowed to sell the aircraft to any other airline for three years.
After that period, if a buyer paid less than C$350,000 for the aircraft, Avro would have to pay the difference to TCA.
Furthermore, during the testing period of one year after the first aircraft was introduced, Avro would have to pay all costs, even if paying passengers were carried.
Jack Dyment, chief of TCA's entire engineering department, suggested that Avro pay for the testing so that it would "permit us to learn how to successfully operate a jet aircraft without having to pay for such experience the hard way."
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Design changes
In 1947, [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien], president of Avro, advised [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] of TCA that they could not meet the fixed price contract.
Symington's response was to pull out of the project, perhaps due to having successfully taken delivery of their new [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien]. [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] stepped in and offered $1.5 million to continue the project, at a slower pace.At about the same time, Rolls-Royce told Avro that the civil certification of the Avon could not be guaranteed in time for the Jetliner's rollout.
This, in turn, would lead to higher operational and maintenance costs.
Nevertheless, Avro continued with its plan to build the jet, selecting four [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] to replace the two Avons.
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In 1947, [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien], president of Avro, advised [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] of TCA that they could not meet the fixed price contract.
Symington's response was to pull out of the project, perhaps due to having successfully taken delivery of their new [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien]. [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] stepped in and offered $1.5 million to continue the project, at a slower pace.At about the same time, Rolls-Royce told Avro that the civil certification of the Avon could not be guaranteed in time for the Jetliner's rollout.
This, in turn, would lead to higher operational and maintenance costs.
Nevertheless, Avro continued with its plan to build the jet, selecting four [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] to replace the two Avons.
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Chief Designer [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] was upset by these developments, but in the end found a number of advantages of the four-engine layout.
The main advantage was that an engine-out situation, the aircraft would lose only ¼ of its thrust, rather than ½, which made power tolerances easier to meet.
In particular, the asymmetry in thrust originally called for a powered rudder to correct for yaw in the case of an engine-out, but with four engines it was found the yaw was so small it could be correctly easily with just the manual trim controls.
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Although bearing some resemblance to the [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] 8 and 9 (which spawned the [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien]); from the outset, Floyd's design was conceived as a commercial jet airliner.[Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien][Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien]
The updated design was presented in October 1948, and in February 1948 TCA responded with changes of their own.
Now they wanted the aircraft to cruise at 500 mph, and they increased the fuel requirements to allow for wider diversions.
In April, Gordon McGregor took over the presidency of TCA, and told Smye that he did not want to be the first airline with a jet.
Nevertheless, the project pressed on, and was the topic of a major article in Aviation Week that November.
The main advantage was that an engine-out situation, the aircraft would lose only ¼ of its thrust, rather than ½, which made power tolerances easier to meet.
In particular, the asymmetry in thrust originally called for a powered rudder to correct for yaw in the case of an engine-out, but with four engines it was found the yaw was so small it could be correctly easily with just the manual trim controls.
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Although bearing some resemblance to the [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] 8 and 9 (which spawned the [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien]); from the outset, Floyd's design was conceived as a commercial jet airliner.[Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien][Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien]
The updated design was presented in October 1948, and in February 1948 TCA responded with changes of their own.
Now they wanted the aircraft to cruise at 500 mph, and they increased the fuel requirements to allow for wider diversions.
In April, Gordon McGregor took over the presidency of TCA, and told Smye that he did not want to be the first airline with a jet.
Nevertheless, the project pressed on, and was the topic of a major article in Aviation Week that November.
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The aircraft was scheduled to begin deliveries in May 1952, and enter service in October, which would have given it fully six years head start on the [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien], which did not enter service until October 1958, and more than 11 years on its top short-field competitor, the [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien].
Its short-field performance exceeded the [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] (with a comparable number of passengers).
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Proposals exist for 30-, 40-, and 50-seat models, as well as 52- and 64-seat [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] versions, high-altitude medical lab, [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien], cargo, and crew trainer types.
Given the difference in seat pitch at the time (compared to today), maximum capacity could readily have reached 100 even without a simple fuselage stretch.
Its short-field performance exceeded the [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] (with a comparable number of passengers).
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Proposals exist for 30-, 40-, and 50-seat models, as well as 52- and 64-seat [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] versions, high-altitude medical lab, [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien], cargo, and crew trainer types.
Given the difference in seat pitch at the time (compared to today), maximum capacity could readily have reached 100 even without a simple fuselage stretch.
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Operational history
Two years later, the first prototype, CF-EJD (-X), began taxiing tests, and first flew on 10 August 1949, only 25 months after the design had started, and only 13 days after the first flight of the DH Comet.
A delay caused by runway construction at the company's home Malton airport combined with repairs necessitated by external nacelle skin "buckling" prevented the Jetliner from being the first jet-powered airliner to fly.
On its second flight, on 16 August, the landing gear failed to extend, and the Jetliner had to make a belly-landing.
However, the damage was minor, and the aircraft was in the air again in three weeks.
In April 1950, the Jetliner carried the world's first jet airmail from [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] to [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] in 58 minutes– half the previous record (c.340 miles, 352 mph).
The flight was highly publicized and the crew was welcomed with a ticker tape parade through the streets of Manhattan.
So new was the concept of jet power that the Jetliner was made to park far from the terminal, and pans were placed under the engines in case they dripped any "self-igniting fuel."
The Jetliner suffered a mysterious "cracking" sound on the trip and was forced to stay on, as the pilots refused to
fly it back.
This delay allowed it to be presented to a number of potential customers, where it was competing against considerably slower designs like the [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] and war-surplus [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien].
On its return, (on the back of a train), the "cracking" problem was traced to the spar area around the engines, which was made much stronger.
It was later learned the problem was actually too-close tolerances between the engine nacelle and the spar, simply making a looser fit would have had the same effect.
Two years later, the first prototype, CF-EJD (-X), began taxiing tests, and first flew on 10 August 1949, only 25 months after the design had started, and only 13 days after the first flight of the DH Comet.
A delay caused by runway construction at the company's home Malton airport combined with repairs necessitated by external nacelle skin "buckling" prevented the Jetliner from being the first jet-powered airliner to fly.
On its second flight, on 16 August, the landing gear failed to extend, and the Jetliner had to make a belly-landing.
However, the damage was minor, and the aircraft was in the air again in three weeks.
In April 1950, the Jetliner carried the world's first jet airmail from [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] to [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] in 58 minutes– half the previous record (c.340 miles, 352 mph).
The flight was highly publicized and the crew was welcomed with a ticker tape parade through the streets of Manhattan.
So new was the concept of jet power that the Jetliner was made to park far from the terminal, and pans were placed under the engines in case they dripped any "self-igniting fuel."
The Jetliner suffered a mysterious "cracking" sound on the trip and was forced to stay on, as the pilots refused to
fly it back.
This delay allowed it to be presented to a number of potential customers, where it was competing against considerably slower designs like the [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] and war-surplus [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien].
On its return, (on the back of a train), the "cracking" problem was traced to the spar area around the engines, which was made much stronger.
It was later learned the problem was actually too-close tolerances between the engine nacelle and the spar, simply making a looser fit would have had the same effect.
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At the time, in the mid-1950s, the [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] was starting and the Canadian authorities were in the midst of expanding the military.
Avro was involved in designing the first dedicated jet-powered, all-weather fighter for the [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien], the [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] Canuck.
The project was somewhat delayed, although the company's continuing work on the Jetliner caused some controversy.
After the prototype returned, it still had no immediate sales prospects, therefore [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien], (the "minister of everything"), ordered the program stopped in December 1951.
The second prototype Jetliner, well on its way in the main assembly hangar, was broken up at that time.
Nevertheless, only a few months later, the enigmatic [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] first learned of the design and leased the Jetliner prototype for testing, flying it for a few circuits when it arrived in Culver City, California.
He became a believer, imagining [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] and National delivering passengers from [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] to vacation spots in [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien]
in half the time of the competition.
He became desperate to buy 30 Jetliners, but Avro had to repeatedly turn him down due to limited manufacturing capabilities and overwork on the CF-100 project.
Hughes then started looking at US companies to build it for them; [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] proved interested and started studies on gearing up a production line.
C.D. Howe again stepped in and insisted that Avro concentrate on its [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] and CF-100 jet fighter programs.
The project was almost restarted in 1953, when CF-100 production was in full swing, but this never happened.
In 1955, TCA ordered 51 [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] aircraft from [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] in England.
These were the first turbine-powered aircraft in regular service in North America.
They continued in service until 1974.
Avro was involved in designing the first dedicated jet-powered, all-weather fighter for the [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien], the [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] Canuck.
The project was somewhat delayed, although the company's continuing work on the Jetliner caused some controversy.
After the prototype returned, it still had no immediate sales prospects, therefore [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien], (the "minister of everything"), ordered the program stopped in December 1951.
The second prototype Jetliner, well on its way in the main assembly hangar, was broken up at that time.
Nevertheless, only a few months later, the enigmatic [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] first learned of the design and leased the Jetliner prototype for testing, flying it for a few circuits when it arrived in Culver City, California.
He became a believer, imagining [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] and National delivering passengers from [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] to vacation spots in [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien]
in half the time of the competition.
He became desperate to buy 30 Jetliners, but Avro had to repeatedly turn him down due to limited manufacturing capabilities and overwork on the CF-100 project.
Hughes then started looking at US companies to build it for them; [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] proved interested and started studies on gearing up a production line.
C.D. Howe again stepped in and insisted that Avro concentrate on its [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] and CF-100 jet fighter programs.
The project was almost restarted in 1953, when CF-100 production was in full swing, but this never happened.
In 1955, TCA ordered 51 [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] aircraft from [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] in England.
These were the first turbine-powered aircraft in regular service in North America.
They continued in service until 1974.
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Cancellation
The Jetliner was later used as the aerial photo platform for the CF-100 project.
On December 10, 1956, the Jetliner was ordered surplused, and although it was donated to the [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien],
they had no room for it in storage and took only the nose section for cockpit layout design.
The rest of the Jetliner was cut up on December 13, 1956.
The only surviving parts are the nose and cockpit section in the [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] in [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien].
The Jetliner was later used as the aerial photo platform for the CF-100 project.
On December 10, 1956, the Jetliner was ordered surplused, and although it was donated to the [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien],
they had no room for it in storage and took only the nose section for cockpit layout design.
The rest of the Jetliner was cut up on December 13, 1956.
The only surviving parts are the nose and cockpit section in the [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] in [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien].
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Specifications Avro C102 Jetliner
General characteristics
General characteristics
- Length: 82 ft 5 in (25.1 m)
- [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien]: 98 ft (29.9 m)
- Height: 26 ft 5½ in (8.1 m)
- [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien]: 37,000 lb (16,783 kg)
- [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien]: 65,000 lb (29,484 kg)
- Powerplant: 4 × [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] 5/17 turbojet, 3,600 lbf (16 kN) each
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