Embraer C-390

Le KC-390, un avion virtuel, sera plus gros qu'un Transall

L'annonce de l'achat par la France d'une douzaine d'Embraer KC390 au Brésil a créé la surprise. D'abord parce que l'avion n'existe pas encore. Le programme n'a été lancé qu'en 2008, avec une première commande en avril 2009. L'avion ne devrait pas entrer en service avant 2015. Autant dire qu'il ne devrait pas être opérationnel dans l'armée de l'air française avant la fin de la prochaine décénnie, dans une dizaine d'années.
Le KC-390 sera un avion de transport militaire, doté de capacités de ravitaillement en vol. Son poids maximum au décollage devrait être de 72 tonnes, soit nettement plus qu'un C-160 Transall (51 tonnes), mais comparable à celle d'un Hercules C-130. Sa charge maximale sera de 19 tonnes, avec une porte-cargo à l'arrière. Les dimensions de sa soute sont inconnues.
Les dimensions de l'avion sont de 33,4 m (longueur), 33,9 m (envergure), 11,4 (hauteur), à comparer à celles du Transall : 32,4 x 40 x 11,7.
Le KC 390 sera propulsé par deux réacteurs turbofan, qui pourraient être des Pratt-Whitney PW6000 ou des Rolls-Royce BR715 (poussée comprise entre 75 et 100 kN).
L'arrivée de cet avion risque de poser des problèmes à l'armée de l'air, qui verra se constituer une micro-flotte. A la date prévisibible de livraison, la flotte de transport serait composée de quatre types d'appareils, le Transall étant en principe retiré : C-130, Casa, A400-M (si tout va bien...) et KC-390. Chaque flotte nécessite de former spécifiquement des équipages et des mécaniciens, sans compter les flux d'approvisionnement en pièces détachées. D'autant que l'armée de l'air ne conserve pas un souvenir ému du Tucano, avion d'entrainement brésilien qu'elle vient de retirer du service, sans regrets particuliers.
Cette commande est une pierre dans le jardin d'EADS et d'Airbus, incapables de livrer à temps et au prix attendu l'A 400M. C'est Dassault, la maison rivale, qui devrait aider Embraer à développer le KC-390. Reste maintenant à voir ce que sera vraiment ce KC-390

Embraer confident of success with KC-390 airlifter


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Currently in the initial definition phase, the aircraft is being developed under a Brazilian air force contract worth $1.3 billion, signed in April 2009. Embraer has its work cut out to convince sceptics that it can develop the aircraft to specification for such a relatively paltry sum, while avoiding engineering problems of the kind which beset [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] Military's [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien].
The Brazilian air force contract calls for the construction and certification of two KC-390 prototypes, plus associated production tooling.
"With that amount of money, we will be conceiving, developing, designing and producing two prototypes, and having the tooling to certify those two prototypes to Part 25 and having all the tooling and assembly jigs ready for production," says Orlando Neto, Embraer executive vice-president defence market. He adds that series production is not included in the contract

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The air force is expected to eventually order around 30 production KC-390s, designed to support a multitude of roles including humanitarian missions, rapid mobilisation, special forces operations, air dropping of paratroops, air-to-air refuelling, airborne cargo delivery, medical evacuation, search and rescue and even firefighting.
Conceived as a jet-powered replacement for the [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] C-130, the KC-390 is designed to be operated from semi-prepared airstrips with holes up to 40cm (15.7in) deep, and will also be used to support the Brazilian air force's operations in Antarctica.
"Antarctica was one of the critical tasks that dimensioned the aircraft in the end," says Neto.
The KC-390 is configured to carry a payload of 19t, cruising at Mach 0.8 at an altitude of 36,000ft (11,000m). It will accommodate 23.4t of fuel in its wing tanks and carry an additional 14t of fuel in the air-to-air refuelling role. The fuselage will withstand a pressure differential of 0.52bar (7.6lb/in2), which Neto says will provide a "very comfortable environment for soldiers, for this type of aircraft". He adds that the KC-390 will carry "in excess" of 64 parachutists or 80 soldiers.
"It is designed to be superior to the C-130," says Neto. "The Brazilian air force could have purchased the C-130J, but this aircraft will do more for less, so that's the challenge we have ahead of us. It's as simple as that. We have a contract to produce a product that will do that job."
The KC-390's cargo deck will be 17.8m long, 3.45m wide and 2.9m high (uninterrupted by the wing box). On a ferry flight the aircraft is designed to fly 3,350nm (6,200km), or 1,450nm with its maximum 19t payload. Maximum fuel and an 11t payload gives a range of 2,800nm.
Neto says the KC-390 has to be jet powered because, given the size of the country that the Brazilian air force is charged with defending, "it has to be fast". However the air force also insists that the aircraft be able to take off or land wherever a C-130 can.
"It will land and take off from airfields that are two classes below the C-130J and [Airbus Military] C-295," says Neto.
Despite having a huge amount of airspace to patrol, the Brazilian air force constantly grapples with a tight procurement budget, and Neto says this could work in Embraer's favour when it comes to addressing export markets.

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"If there is one thing that Embraer Defense is blessed with, it's to have the Brazilian air force as a customer," says Neto. "They are very creative people with a small pocket and a big mission. That means that you have to be creative.
"Look at the Bandeirante, the Tucano, the Super Tucano, look at all the products we have developed for them. The ERJ-145 ISR was initially invented for surveillance of the Amazon. They were made to be affordable. With this in hand, you have a good chance of having export success."
Neto sees a conservative potential market for the KC-390 of 700 units (a figure which discounts the possibility, for example, of making a sale to the US Air Force), out of a global C-130 replacement market of 2,800 aircraft.
"This is a product that puts us in a new league," says Neto. "Geopolitics can play a big part pro and against us of course, but we are pretty comfortable that this is a highly addressable market for this type of product."

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The fly-by-wire KC-390 has 52% more wing area than Embraer's current largest product - the 190/195 airliner. Its maximum take-off weight of 72t is 40% higher than that of the E-195.
"We are just finalising the preliminary design phase as we speak," says Neto. "Then will come the initial definition phase, the joint definition phase, the detailed design, and building and certification of the prototypes.
"The initial definition phase is where suppliers and strategic partners will be defined and put on board, because they need to be here for the joint definition phase. Now is the time up until May next in which we'll be seeing movement in terms of suppliers and strategic partners being announced."
Neto says Embraer is open to a foreign government - and that country's local industry - participating in the programme, with the agreement of Brasilia.
"They will be more than welcome to come, provided that the non-recurring costs that are embedded into this $1.3 billion contract are taken from Brazil and taken to them for them to spend.
"We want as many strategic partners as possible, because to be on board you have to take the non-recurring costs and you have to commit to buy the KC-390 in the future.

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"If there is a decision for an air force and a local industry to participate, that is a government-to-government decision. Purchase of the KC-390 is at the air force level and participation of the local industry in doing part of the job is at the industrial level. A handful of countries would be fine."
Metal for the first KC-390 is due to be cut by mid-2013. The initial prototype is scheduled to emerge in mid-2014, with the certification campaign getting under way in the third quarter of that year.
The requirement for the as-yet unselected engine is "more than 25,000lb [110kN] and less than 30,000lb thrust", says Neto. "We're in discussions with the engine manufacturers. The idea is to have as much proven technology as possible. We're not reinventing the wheel here."
The French government has indicated its willingness to purchase 12 KC-390s if Brazil selects the [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] for its F-X2 fighter contest.
"We do see opportunities for the C-390 in France, period," says Neto. "If somebody wants to tie those things together, we'll I'm not tying anything together. You don't buy something you don't need."
Sweden has also made a similar pledge, linked to its offer of the Gripen NG.
The Brazilian air force is looking for "high 20s or low 30s" in terms of number of aircraft, including air-to-air refuelling variants.
"We have completed the final subsonic test of the preliminary design phase, in Holland," says Neto. "We finished the preliminary design phase with a product that we are pretty much confident is robust, complies with the mission it is being designed for, and will be very simple in terms of systems, and to operate."
Three workshops with air forces (similar in format to the airline advisory boards formed by Embraer for its new airliner programmes) have been held, one for general configuration, one focused on the cargo compartment, and one for the maintenance of the aircraft.
The KC-390 has been designed to offer a high level of survivability. "The distribution of systems through the aircraft has to be designed in such a way to ensure the aircraft has the level of survivability necessary for it to do the mission," he says.
Neto is confident that the KC-390 programme will not suffer similar difficulties to those encountered in Europe with the larger A400M.
"This is one product to be developed to fulfil a certain specified mission for one customer," says Neto. "That keeps things very, very straightforward.
"To develop this programme we will have to overcome technical difficulties, learn a few things that we don't know for sure, but that's part of the challenge. We don't want to develop technology out of this, we want to get the aircraft serving the requirements of the Brazilian air force at the end of the development phase.
"Mitigating the risk means having a customer, a contract to get the plane, which will come with its challenges, but no extra technology. We want to be safe because the application and the requirements are there."

Le KC-390 progresse peu à peu. Développé pour et avec l’armée de l’Air brésilienne (FAB), l’appareil militaire de transport a décroché un premier engagement de sa part, annoncé le 21 juillet au salon de Farnborough. Embraer a annoncé que la FAB avait l’intention d’en acquérir vingt-huit.

Cet accord a été l’occasion pour Embraer de faire le point sur l’avancement de ce programme, officiellement lancé en avril 2009. La phase d’études préliminaires a été achevée et les plus importants essais en soufflerie ont été réalisés, permettant à l’avionneur brésilien d’arrêter la configuration aérodynamique, structurelle et des systèmes.

Une bonne nouvelle a également pu être annoncée. La capacité de l’appareil cargo sera meilleure que prévu lors de sa phase de définition. Le KC-390 pourra transporter 23,6 tonnes de fret, au lieu des 19 tonnes initialement visées.

Biréacteur à ailes hautes, le KC-390 a été conçu pour des missions de transport de troupes ou de cargo, y compris dans des régions difficiles comme l’Amazonie ou l’Antarctique. Il est en effet capable de se poser sur des pistes courtes et mal préparées. Il peut également effectuer des missions de ravitaillement en vol, de SAR et d’évacuation médicale.

Brazilian air force signs letter of intent for 28 KC-390s

Embraer has received a timely boost for the KC-390 as it starts approaching foreign governments to establish partnerships that are tied to work sharing and orders for the jet-powered airlifter and tanker.
Brazilian air force chief Lieutenant General Junito Saito signed a letter of intent to buy an initial batch of 28 KC-390s after 2016. A contract for an undisclosed sum is likely to be signed within two years, says Embraer president and chief executive Frederico Fleury Curado.
Meanwhile, Embraer has completed a preliminary design review process and added about 4.6t to the maximum payload, says Orlando Ferreira Neto, executive vice president for Embraer's defence market.
With a full load of 23.6t, the KC-390 should be able to fly about 1,400nm (2,590km).

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The company now enters a roughly nine-month "initial definition phase" where it hopes to select major industrial and government partners for the KC-390.
Foremost among the decisions to be made in the next several months will be on the supplier for the 27,000-29,000lb-thrust (120-129kN) power plants.
The new letter of intent comes about 15 months after Embraer formally launched the KC-390 programme. The Brazilian air force kicked off the programme by funding development, tooling and the construction of two prototypes.
Embraer plans to launch full-scale production in 2016, expecting an annual production rate of 18-20 aircraft per year, with the Brazilian air force's initial batch of 28 delivered in three or four years, Curado says.

Le gouvernement colombien a confirmé mercredi sa volonté de participer à la construction de l'avion de transport militaire KC-390, projet de l'avionneur brésilien Embraer visant à remplacer les Hercule américains.

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La Colombie voudrait s'associer au projet Embrer C-390

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Le gouvernement colombien a confirmé mercredi sa volonté de participer à la construction de l'avion de transport militaire KC-390, projet de l'avionneur brésilien Embraer visant à remplacer les Hercule américains.

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Le C-390 ne pourra pas vraiment remplacer les C-130 J, le tonnage emporté est plus faible et les capacités restent à démontrer pour Embraer.

L'industrie aéronautique colombienne reste à construire mais le Brésil pourrait être intéressé.

Chile and Colombia to Become Partners in Embraer’s KC-390 Programme

While US and European aerospace companies, including Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Airbus Military and Antonov, are intensely competing in the global tactical airlift market, a unexpected competitor has quietly positioned itself in the key players’ backyard and, in the future, may be reaching out beyond its ancestral geographic and business environment. So far, Embraer’s KC-390 tactical airlift programme has not made large waves in the international market. However, the South American company, which has already had significant international success with its Tucano and Super Tucano light attack and training aircraft, is now seeking to measure up to earlier achievements with a new heavyweight (when compared to the Tucanos).

Recent news about possible new partners and future customers have shown that the programme has good chances not to remain confined to continental borders. However, a long way still lies ahead of the KC-390 programme before it may join the international competition. The first flight of the airplane is scheduled for 2014 and entry into service with the Brazilian Air Force for the end of 2015.

Indeed, Embraer is very confident about the further progress of its military airlift programme. In May, Acir Padilha, Vice-President, Marketing and Sales at Embraer Defense Systems, told defpro.com: “The EMBRAER KC-390 sets a new standard in medium-lift military transport. With a twin turbofan engine and outstanding operational productivity, the KC-390 will have the lowest total life cycle cost and the highest availability in its class” (see [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien]).

Embraer’s growing number of partners for this programme – in addition to its key national partner, the Brazilian Air Force (FAB) –, may prove Padilha right. After the FAB’s announcement during the Farnborough air show in July to purchase 28 KC-390 aircraft, two new partners have been recently announced. In late August, the Brazilian and Chilean Defence Ministers signed a declaration of intent in Santiago de Chile by which Chile becomes partner in the KC-390 programme and which provides a basis for negotiations on the purchase of six aircraft. Furthermore, as DefenseNews reports, that Brazil and Colombia have signed a similar document on 1 September. In addition to the prospect of industrial participation, the Colombian Air Force (FAC) intends to purchase a fleet of twelve KC-390s.

Chile’s industry may also benefit of a participation in the programme. Based the bilateral agreement, Chile’s National Aeronautical Enterprise (Empresa Nacional de Aeronáutica, ENAER) will be offered to contribute to the development of the aircraft and to supply part of its structure. The two South American companies collaborate in different aerospace programmes since the 1990s. Orlando José Ferreira Neto, Embraer Executive Vice President, Defence Market, said on the occasion of the signing ceremony: “We have an excellent relationship with ENAER, and we hope to see it grow even more via this partnership that not only reveals the high regard of the Chilean government for the KC-390, which we consider to be a winning product, but also shows our mutual interest in integrating the defence industrial bases of both countries.” ENAER’s CEO, General Pedro Bascuñan stated: “Participating in the project brings benefits not only to Embraer and ENAER, but also to both nations, by generating jobs and boosting industrial development. The possibility of working together on the KC-390 program comes as an important alternative for stimulating the manufacture of aeronautical structures in our facilities.”

Earlier this week, Chile was joined by Colombia as the second international partner in Brazil’s ambitious military airlift programme. According to DefenseNews, Air Marshal Flavio Ulloa, the FAC chief of logistical operations, said during the signing ceremony that by “being part of the programme, we are taking big steps to significantly speed up the development of the country's aeronautics industry through the Colombian Aeronautics Industry Corporation.” The Colombian Air Force already operates the Tucano, Super Tucano and EMB 110 Bandeirante aircraft. The news of Embraer’s latest international partner was also noticed on the stock market with company shares rising by 6.1% on Wednesday.

The programme may further grow, as Argentina has, reportedly, indicated it may join. Furthermore, Dassault and Saab, both currently competing in the Brazilian FX-2 fighter tender, have indicated they could participate in the KC-390 programme if they are selected for the combat aircraft deal. Upon submitting an update proposal to the Brazilian Air Force, Saab emphasised its offer for a “unique competitive partnership”, also including Sweden’s intention to evaluate the KC-390 transport aircraft for long-term tactical air transport needs and Saab’s ambition to join the transport aircraft KC-390 development programme as a strategic partner, including support in international marketing. On the other hand, France is unlikely to buy the KC-390, as is already deeply involved in the multi-national European A400M programme.

The KC-390 may become a serious competitor to comparable transport aircraft. Capable of being refuelled in flight and also quickly configured as a tanker, the KC-390 uses state-of-the-art avionics, with dual HUD and a full-featured mission system including an accurate computed air release point (CARP). As Padilha explained in the interview, the aircraft will feature a complete self-protection system and will be fully Night Vision Goggle (NVG) compatible. He added: “The KC-390 will present an extraordinary field performance and be capable of operating from short and semi-prepared runaways. A full fly-by-wire flight control system with optimised functions will assure best mission performance and safe flying with reduced crew workloads.”

Embraer: Portugal could buy six KC-390s

Portugal could acquire six Embraer KC-390 tactical transports following the signature of a declaration of intent by defence minister Augusto Santos Silva and his Brazilian counterpart Nelson Jobim.
Lisbon's show of support further strengthens Embraer's developmental KC-390, coming swiftly after Chile and Colombia made similar commitments to the programme worth a combined 18 aircraft.
"The agreement marks the beginning of negotiations for Portuguese companies to join the project and to participate in the manufacture of the new airplane, as well as the future acquisition of six aircraft for the Portuguese air force," says Embraer.
"We have strong historic ties of bilateral co-operation with Portugal, and are very enthusiastic about their future participation in the KC-390 programme, which will contribute decisively to strengthening that country's aeronautics cluster," says company chief executive Frederico Fleury Curado.
The Brazilian air force is expected to be the launch operator of the KC-390 twinjet, with the service having identified an initial requirement for 28 examples. Embraer has yet to freeze the tanker/transport's final design configuration, or to confirm its main equipment suppliers.
Portugal's commitment represents a blow to Airbus Military, which assembles the [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] in neighbouring Spain. Lisbon was previously interested in the larger design, but withdrew from the European programme before its formal launch in 2003.
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Embraer talks up KC-390

Today Embraer announced another customer with news that the Czech Republic has signed a “Declaration of Intent” to acquire two KC-390s. This news follows the Brazilian Defence Minister’s travels to Chile, Colombia, and Portugal – where he got similar commitments. In total Embraer has commitments for 54 planes.
Considering this program is quite different from anything Embraer has done before, the KC-390 program is looking quite good. Interest in this airplane is likely to make Lockheed Martin ponder a response of some sort. The KC-390 appears to offer the same payload (~20t) but is clearly going to be a lot more modern than the C-130. For a start the KC-390 will have two turbofan engines rather than four turboprops. Another firm that has to be wondering what to do next will be Airbus Military – any military freighter sales in Europe make their own A400M harder to sell. Boeing’s C-17 is far beyond the KC-390′s abilities and is consequently not threatened.
Embraer’s KC-390 seems to have struck a chord with a few customers. The ubiquitous C-130 has never really worried about a competitor – even though Antonov has come up with compelling options. The KC-390 is clearly going to be considered by many nations as a potential C-130 replacement. Since these deals are government to government, few if any, details will emerge. Which is to say, price is only one factor. Politics makes military sales much more complex and nuanced.
However the success of the KC-390 program will provide further evidence that the big OEMs need to be wary of the growing technology strength from the BRICs. Aerospace is seeing a growing knowledge base far beyond the EU and North America.

The United Arab Emirates is the latest nation targeted by Brazil to join Embraer's KC-390 tanker/transport programme as a supplier and customer.

Brazilian defence minister Nelson Jobim on 19 September met with Gen H H Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed Al Nahyan, crown prince of Abu Dhabi and deputy supreme commander of the UAE armed forces.

Jobim says a possible agreement on military co-operation in negotiation between the countries could include Abu Dhabi's participation in the KC-390 programme.

Such a deal also would involve UAE interest in the Embraer EMB-314 Super Tucano, he says.

An agreement on the KC-390 could take several months to reach fruition, but would likely follow along the lines of Embraer's international participation strategy for the project.

The existing five-nation partnership for the KC-390 is based on adapting Embraer's risk-sharing development model to the military market, says Jairo Sotério, the company's marketing and business development manager for defence programmes.

Each partnership requires three separate agreements - government-to-government, air force-to-air force and industry-to-industry, he says. The goal is to ensure that each member of a nation's military-industrial complex is vested in the programme's success.

So far, Embraer has signed agreements to produce a possible 54 aircraft for Brazil, Chile, Colombia, the Czech Republic and Portugal.

The company has identified a potential market for nearly 700 aircraft, the first of which should enter service after 2015. The KC-390 will carry a maximum cargo of 23.6t, Embraer announced in July, with this marking a nearly 20% increase over previous estimates.

Embraer still has not identified an engine supplier for the KC-390. Marketing materials have depicted the aircraft powered by engines resembling the CFM International CFM56 and International Aero Engines V2500.

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Argentina joins Embraer's KC-390 transport program

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The defense ministers of Brazil and Argentina this week signed a declaration of intent for Argentina to join the KC-390 military transport aircraft program, the Brazilian plane maker [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] announced Friday.
"This is another strong demonstration of interest for the KC-390, which proves this product meets the military transportation market requirements," Orlando José Ferreira Neto, Embraer executive vice president, Defense Market, said in a news release.
The agreement marks the beginning of negotiations for Agentina's FAdeA to take part in building the plane and for future acquisition of six KC-390 aircraft by the Argentine government.
Chile, Colombia, Portugal and the Czech Republic have started discussions to establish the conditions for their participation in the KC-390 program and, in July, the Brazilian Air Force revealed its intention to acquire 28 of the jets. The six countries could buy a total of 60 KC-390s, Embraer said.

Embraer has announced that Argentina is the sixth government to enter negotiations on joining the development phase of the KC-390 transport programme.

A declaration of intent revealed on 29 October proposes to involve Argentina's FAdeA aerospace company in the development project, while the Ministry of Defense is negotiating a purchase of six KC-390s, Embraer says.

The order reinforces "the technological integration of South America's defence segment," Embraer executive vice president for the defence market Orlando José Ferreira Neto says in a statement.
FAdeA, formerly Lockheed Martin Aircraft Argentina, is the state-owned manufacturer currently developing the IA-73 jet trainer.

The KC-390 has signed similar agreements in Brazil, Chile and Colombia, with the Czech Republic and Portugal also launching discussions.

Brazil also is in early talks with the United Arab Emirates on joining the KC-390 programme.

The six combined letters of intent call for sales of up to 60 KC-390s.
Embraer is currently in the partner and supply chain definition phase after freezing the KC-390 design earlier this year. The company plans to finalise its partners and supply chains by early 2011.

The KC-390 is being developed to replace aging C-130 turboprops around the world. Embraer projects a market of up to 700 aircraft for a jet-powered military transport with a maximum payload of 23.6t.

V2500 appears favored for KC-390

The International Aero Engines V2500 appears to be the likely engine selection for the Embraer KC-390 MRTT, AirInsight has learned.
CFM had been thought to have the advantage for its CFM56 because of the larger, worldwide installed base due to its exclusive supplier arrangement for the Boeing 737 and its market share of about 50% of the Airbus A320. We understand that the V2500 may be the winner because of its ability to operate with stronger thrust reversers, giving the KC-390 the ability to back up.

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V2500 appears favored for KC-390

The International Aero Engines V2500 appears to be the likely engine selection for the Embraer KC-390 MRTT, AirInsight has learned.
CFM had been thought to have the advantage for its CFM56 because of the larger, worldwide installed base due to its exclusive supplier arrangement for the Boeing 737 and its market share of about 50% of the Airbus A320. We understand that the V2500 may be the winner because of its ability to operate with stronger thrust reversers, giving the KC-390 the ability to back up.

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Airbus expects Far East orders for tsunami rescue aircraft


Both Japan and New Zealand have inquired about the A400M to handle humanitarian crises


Far Eastern governments have contacted Airbus about ordering its latest military aircraft, which can cost more than $80m (£49m), to tackle humanitarian crises.



The A400M was originally designed for the defence needs of seven European countries, including the UK, Germany and France. Last year, the governments of those nations agreed a ¤3.5bn (£3.04bn) deal to salvage the much-delayed programme.

The aircraft is extremely flexible. Countries such as Japan and New Zealand have looked at buying it for humanitarian aid and rescue purposes after recent tsunamis and earthquakes. The Britain's Department for International Development (DfID) has also looked at the A400M.

Neighbouring Far Eastern governments are understood to have started looking at the possibility of teaming up in partnerships of two to three to afford the aircraft. There is no fixed cost because different clients have their own specifications, but the cost – tens of millions – puts them out of reach for most humanitarian groups.

At present, the Airbus parent company, EADS, is not officially trying to push A400 sales until 2012. But a soft marketing push, including conference presentations, has started.

Ian Elliott, the head of defence marketing at Airbus Military, said: "There's been quite some interest shown from affiliates of NGOs – government departments, like DfID.

"There has been interest from Far Eastern governments. You've only got to look at the disasters in the area to see how the A400 could help."

Mr Elliott added that the A400 had "enormous potential" in disaster relief, anti-piracy and illegal immigration control. For example, the advanced radar and communication facilities could easily track pirates.

He also confirmed that "informal contacts at mid-level staff levels" had started with some countries. "We will kick-off the export campaign next year," he said. "The full potential of this aircraft will really begin demonstrating itself when entering service."

The first delivery of the A400 is expected to be made to France in 2013. The other four initial clients are Luxembourg, Belgium, Spain and Turkey.

The news comes after a significant week for Airbus. The World Trade Organisation announced that it was partially overturning a 2010 verdict that the European Union had given Airbus $18bn in illegal subsidies to develop the A380 jumbo. Boeing, its US rival, had challenged the subsidies. Confusingly, both sides claimed victory. Airbus's president, Tom Enders, claimed the group had won on "all the key elements" and Boeing's Jim McNerney said it was "a clear, final win" for the US.

Lord Mandelson, the former European trade commissioner, urged the two parties not to continue the seven-year dispute because of the potential threat from emerging economies.

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Fedair a écrit:Mais enfin, qui dirige Airbus...??

Fedair a écrit:Nous avions prévu ce bazar à venir depuis des mois ( DayAfter qui annonçait notre abaissement de la note dans " Actualité Constructeurs ", je crois)

Nous aimons beaucoup Airbus, ça nous empêche pas de financer des Boeing, business as usual...

Et les syndicats, ils en pensent quoi ?

Les fournisseurs de même ?

Embraer n'a pas sauté le pas, concernant le GTF P&W du moins.

Les ERJ 190 pourraient être allongés un peu, sans problème juridique, sans trop de soucis techniques. Un NG 34 GE qui ne pète pas trop souvent ( par rapport à la concurrence ), c'est possible ?

Le choix de moteurs sur KC 390 pourrait nous éclairer...?

Les militaires ont besoin de fiabilité et de disponibilité. C'est pour cela que l'on trouve un choix final entre CFM-56 et IAE V2500 ! Compte tenu des besoins de fiabilité (ce qui implique "maturité") et de disponibilité, le GTF de P&W s'exclut tout seul, spontanément !