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par SEVRIEN Lun 03 Oct 2011, 17:58
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Mais, vous savez, .... l'article / le prospectus est long !
On ne sait pas pour Lars ANDERSEN, ... mais pour Entertainer Tim, il est permis de se demander s'il pourrait appliquer son attention, sa concentration, sur le document sous le lien, assez longtemps, pour tout comprendre.
Au travers de ses tentatives "d'Entertainment", des impressions qu'il donne, de ses fictions, ... nous connaissons tous la puissance de son amour-propre, voire sa suffisance, qui débordent dans un déferlement permanent, on peut se demander s'il arriverait a quitter ses sujets favoris -- soit, sa personne et sa vision des choses , ... son nombril -- assez longtemps pour prendre de la distance par rapport à ces sujets favoris !
Il faudrait qu'i soit dans un état de réceptivité adéquate ! Pas sûr ! Il est toujours 'en émission' ! On dirait qu'il n'a pas encore trouvé le bouton 'réception'.
C'est très décevant. :|
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Re: Emirates : EK : UAE
par Jeannot Mar 04 Oct 2011, 07:58
Donc 30 A380s et tout ou partie des 29 777s non identifiés... Cela me semble beaucoup...Emirates mulling order of up to 30 A380s, say analysts
Emirates Airline is expected to place orders for a significant number of aircraft, including 30 A380s and additional Boeing 777s at the Dubai Airshow next month, aviation analysts said.
The largest international carrier has around 199 planes on order, scheduled for delivery through to 2019, but is likely to unveil new orders to support its rapid route expansion and in preparation for the delayed delivery of the Airbus A350.
“Boeing has some 29 unidentified orders for 777s. Emirates has a history of placing orders through the year without making them public and then announcing them at the show,” said Saj Ahmed, a UK-based aviation analyst.
“At this stage it's unclear how many they ordered in 2011, or indeed whether they will actually place a brand new order. Either way, expect at least 20 [Boeing] 777s for Emirates as a result of the A350 delays and their need to fill that gap as they draw down older airplanes,” he said.
The airline is also a likely customer for a further 30 A380s, to take their total order for the aircraft to 120, he said.
State-backed Emirates is among the world’s largest buyers of new aircraft. The carrier counts 90 Airbus A380s worth $34bn at list price among its outstanding orders, and said in July it plans to spend around $4bn annually over the next three to four years.
With about a hundred 777s in the Emirates fleet now and about 40 still to come, the carrier is also the model’s biggest airline customer.
Airbus said in June it planned to push back the launch of its largest A350 wide-body aircraft by 18 months. The delay allows the planemaker to meet buyer demands for a more powerful engine, and puts the model into more direct competition with Boeing 777-300ER.
Ernest Arvai, president of US aviation consultancy Arvai Group, said he also expected Emirates to unveil new orders to support a recently-announced push into the American market.
The airline last week said it would add flights to Seattle and Dallas in a revival of plans to establish a major route network to the world’s largest economy that it shelved after the 2001 terror attacks.
“We believe Emirates will order additional A380s to cover route growth, including a couple of routes to the US,” he said. “I would expect Emirates to fill out its fleet plan for 2015-17 with additional orders if they see a gap, and potential delays to A350.
“Two factors are in play. One is additional growth for Emirates and more aggressive expansion plans, and the other, is the expectations with respect to Airbus delivery timing.
“Emirates doesn't want to be in a position to be ready for new routes and not have aircraft ready, so additional 777s are a safe choice,” he added.
Emirates Airline and Boeing both declined to comment when contacted by Arabian Business.
“We’re always in touch with our customers - existing and potential ones - and any discussions of course remain confidential,” an Airbus spokesperson said in an emailed statement.
Emirates chairman Sheikh Ahmed bin Saeed Al Maktoum last week said the carrier is likely to place orders for new planes at the show in November, but didn’t specify which aircraft.
“I would say it’s more positive that we might sign something,” he told reporters.
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Re: Emirates : EK : UAE
par SEVRIEN Mar 04 Oct 2011, 10:47
Jeannot a écrit:Emirates pourrait commander 30 A380s supplémentaires à Dubai
Emirates mulling order of up to 30 A380s, say analysts
La mention de ce retard est un clin d'oeil à la galerie. Il faut que "Entertainer Tim" aille dans le sens de tout son 'hype' récent ! Cela ne l'empêchera pas de commander des exemplaires supplémentaires de l'A350-XWB-1000.Emirates Airline is expected to place orders for a significant number of aircraft, including 30 A380s and additional Boeing 777s at the Dubai Airshow next month, aviation analysts said.
The largest international carrier has around 199 planes on order, scheduled for delivery through to 2019, but is likely to unveil new orders to support its rapid route expansion and in preparation for the delayed delivery of the Airbus A350.
La commande actuelle est le nombre minimal, pour solder les obligations d'Emirates envers Airbus et RR, dans le sillage de son refus d'exécuter sa commande antérieure des A340-600-HGW.
L'analyse est dans le domaine du plausible. Le chiffre de 29 ou 30 "mid-size jets" correspond, aussi (coïncidence ou non ? ) au MoU (ou LoI ? ), encore sur la table, pour le "roll-over" des Airbus A330, arrivés, il y a quelque temps, à un âge qui correspond à celui du retraitde la flotte d'Emirates en harmonie avec la 'politique' / "policy" & / ou la stratégie d'Emirates.“Boeing has some 29 unidentified orders for 777s. Emirates has a history of placing orders through the year without making them public and then announcing them at the show,” said Saj Ahmed, a UK-based aviation analyst.
“At this stage it's unclear how many they ordered in 2011, or indeed whether they will actually place a brand new order. Either way, expect at least 20 [Boeing] 777s for Emirates as a result of the A350 delays and their need to fill that gap as they draw down older airplanes,” he said.
Bien entendu, Emirates doit probablment trouver une solution d'équivalence en gros porteurs / "wide-bodies", pour aider Dubai à régler les obligations de DAE envers Boeing, pour les B737-NG (Emirates n'a pas de MC dans sa flotte).
Il y a plusieurs explications possibles pour les commandes envisagées des B777 (-300ER ? ) mentionnés ici.
Cette potentielle commande importante pourrait servir d'élément de 'compensation', pour libérer Emirates du MoU / de la LoI précités (29 ou 30 x A330) . Cela pourrait faire que RR se fronce les sourcils, ..... mais, danas la mesure où Emirates aurait commencé à esquisser des commandes supplémentaire pour les A350-XWB, quelleq qu'en soient les variantes, RR et Emirates pourraient trouver un terrain d'entente.The airline is also a likely customer for a further 30 A380s, to take their total order for the aircraft to 120, he said.
Le problème est qu'Emirates / Dubai a encore des obligations de nature politique envers les USA. Ces obligations perdureront.
Et la Cie. le fera, sans doute !State-backed Emirates is among the world’s largest buyers of new aircraft. The carrier counts 90 Airbus A380s worth $34bn at list price among its outstanding orders, and said in July it plans to spend around $4bn annually over the next three to four years.
Oui, ... mais "Entertainer Tim" sait qu'Emirates a trop de B777-300ER, comme nous l'avons déjà écrit !With about a hundred 777s in the Emirates fleet now and about 40 still to come, the carrier is also the model’s biggest airline customer.
Airbus said in June it planned to push back the launch of its largest A350 wide-body aircraft by 18 months. The delay allows the planemaker to meet buyer demands for a more powerful engine, and puts the model into more direct competition with Boeing 777-300ER.
Ceci pourrait expliquer cela !Ernest Arvai, president of US aviation consultancy Arvai Group, said he also expected Emirates to unveil new orders to support a recently-announced push into the American market.
Oui.The airline last week said it would add flights to Seattle and Dallas in a revival of plans to establish a major route network to the world’s largest economy that it shelved after the 2001 terror attacks.
Exactement !“We believe Emirates will order additional A380s to cover route growth, including a couple of routes to the US,” he said. “I would expect Emirates to fill out its fleet plan for 2015-17 with additional orders if they see a gap, and potential delays to A350.
“Two factors are in play. One is additional growth for Emirates and more aggressive expansion plans, and the other, is the expectations with respect to Airbus delivery timing.
“Emirates doesn't want to be in a position to be ready for new routes and not have aircraft ready, so additional 777s are a safe choice,” he added.
Nous avons déjà commenté ceci, ci-dessus, et sous d'autres topics.Emirates Airline and Boeing both declined to comment when contacted by Arabian Business.
“We’re always in touch with our customers - existing and potential ones - and any discussions of course remain confidential,” an Airbus spokesperson said in an emailed statement.
Emirates chairman Sheikh Ahmed bin Saeed Al Maktoum last week said the carrier is likely to place orders for new planes at the show in November, but didn’t specify which aircraft.
“I would say it’s more positive that we might sign something,” he told reporters.
Mais voir remarques ci-dessus.Jeannot a écrit:Donc 30 A380s et tout ou partie des 29 777s non identifiés... Cela me semble beaucoup...
Voila ! Réactions ?
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Re: Emirates : EK : UAE
par Jeannot Mar 04 Oct 2011, 11:10
La seule vraie nouvelle est la présentation de RR à DubaiEmirates airline pushing Boeing to update 777
Tim Clark, president of Middle Eastern airline giant Emirates, has lavish expansion plans that should help both Boeing and the Pacific Northwest region to grow.
With Emirates already the largest operator of big 777 widebodies in the world, he'll visit Seattle on Monday to meet with Lars Andersen, Boeing's head of 777 advanced development. Clark is working closely with Andersen on Boeing's key project to design an updated 777.
Although Boeing has its hands full right now, Clark is pushing the company for a 777 revamp no later than 2018. He's demanding a 777 that will carry more passengers, fly farther and be 10 to 15 percent cheaper to operate.
"That's the task we set them," Clark said "And my goodness, they are moving on this."
As for the region, Emirates will soon fly 777s in and out of Seattle daily. In a phone interview Wednesday, Clark said the newly announced service from SeaTac to Dubai, starting March 1, will open up the city to the Middle East, Africa, India and other parts of Asia.
"We'll open the door," Clark said. "People will see what we are doing and move with us."
Boeing intends to bump up production of the 777, its most lucrative widebody program, to an unprecedented 100 jets per year by early 2013.
Airbus has no rival to the 777 but is preparing one — the mostly composite A350-1000. At the Paris Air Show in June, Airbus announced a two-year delay in that program until 2017 to give Rolls-Royce time to develop a new, bigger engine to power its jet.
That gives Boeing a little more time, too. But Clark said his older 777s will be retired in 2017 and he wants Boeing's upgraded version to replace them.
The 777 revamp will likely include a new 787-style carbon fiber-reinforced plastic composite wing that will save weight, Clark said.
"If they can get a ton or two out of the wing by going with composites, this is something they really ought to be getting on with," he said. "The industry is very, very hungry for technological advances to improve the cost of operation, particularly in fuel."
Happily for Boeing, Clark wasn't happy with Airbus' A350-1000 announcement in Paris, which he said was done without consulting him in advance.
He said Rolls is making a presentation on its proposed new engine for the Airbus jet to his engineers in Dubai on Thursday. But he's doubtful the latest design will be powerful enough for such a big airplane in the very hot temperatures and low-pressure conditions of Dubai in the summer.
Nevertheless, Clark said both Boeing and Airbus will emerge from all their current struggles with new airplanes with technology that greatly advances aviation.
Clark won't be ordering Boeing's newest widebody jet, the freshly delivered 787 Dreamliner, which is too small for his needs. But because its new technologies will transfer to the 777, he's paying close attention to its introduction into service.
Clark said the Japanese domestic routes will be a tough test, with short, full flights into busy airports where luggage carts and food carts will bang into the airplane. How will the composite skin and all the new airplane systems hold up?
"Everybody, including Boeing, is watching that with a magnifying glass," he said. "They'll learn from all of that. Everything will be plowed back into design and development at Boeing."
In the end, he said, the Dreamliner will be a great airplane. Looking back in 10 years, Boeing will conclude that, "Yes, it took a lot of pain; but now we have the platforms of technology on which we can do other things," Clark said.
And by then, Emirates could be much bigger than it is now, dominating the airlines of the world.
The U.S. expansion announced Wednesday, with new flights from Dubai to both Seattle and Dallas, comes as the world economy teeters on the brink of recession.
"It's not a good time," Clark admitted, "but when is?"
He said Emirates will take delivery of 52 widebody jets in the next 20 months — 777s from Boeing and A380 double-decker, superjumbos from Airbus — and "come hell or high water, nothing is going to stop us bringing those airplanes in."
London-based veteran airline consultant John Strickland said Seattle's gain is Vancouver's loss.
Emirates was keenly interested in expanding into Vancouver, B.C., but was blocked by the Canadian aviation authorities to protect Air Canada.
As a result, Seattle may see a boost in both business and tourist travel.
Strickland said Emirates has tended to expand business at all the airports it has gone into, generating new traffic.
When Emirates started flying to Shanghai, he said, unexpected traffic growth arose from Chinese businessmen and engineers traveling to Africa. When it opened its flights to São Paulo, Brazil, Japanese travelers filled planes en route to the thriving Japanese community there.
In India, said Strickland, Emirates has become the de facto national airline. "They are where Air India would have been if it had been better managed," he said.
Clark said he expects a healthy traffic between Seattle-area software companies and the "silicon areas" of India where software is a big export.
And of course, jet-setting Boeing executives will likely also be big users of the Emirates business-class cabins out of Seattle.
"They ought to be," said Clark. "I'll be telling them in no uncertain terms."
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Re: Emirates : EK : UAE
par SEVRIEN Sam 08 Oct 2011, 07:26
Emirates desservira le Zimbabwe et la Zambie en 2012
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HARARE, 7 oct 2011 (AFP)
La compagnie aérienne Emirates a annoncé vendredi qu'elle allait desservir en 2012 le Zimbabwe et la Zambie, à raison de cinq vols par semaine.
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"Emirates airline to start flying Harare route."
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HARARE — Emirates airline said Friday it will begin flying five times a week between Zimbabwe, Zambia and Dubai next year.
"In February 2012, Emirates will commence services five days a week from Harare and Lusaka to Dubai," Emirates Group said in a newspaper advert seeking applications for staff to run its new operations.
Flag carrier Air Zimbabwe has downsized its services because of frequent strikes and huge debts as the company tries to maintain an ageing fleet.
Air Zimbabwe pilots went on strike for over five months this year over unpaid salaries and allowances as the airline is saddled with $100 million in debt.
Several international airlines, including EgyptAir, Air France, KLM, Lufthansa and Quantas stopped flights to Zimbabwe because of dwindling passenger numbers as tourists were scared off by political violence and food shortages.
Regional airlines like Air Malawi, Kenyan Airways and South African Airways are still flying to Zimbabwe.
C'est une des indéniables qualités d'Emirates, et de Tim CLARK !
Ils voient les opportunités, et n'hésitent pas à les exploiter !
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Re: Emirates : EK : UAE
par SEVRIEN Sam 08 Oct 2011, 08:11
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C'est "more of the same". Et nous avons répondu à chacun de ces points par ailleurs, et mis en pièces les arguments vieillots et trop connus !Jeannot a écrit:Emirates pousse Boeing à faire évoluer son 777La seule vraie nouvelle est la présentation de RR à DubaiEmirates airline pushing Boeing to update 777
Tim Clark, president of Middle Eastern airline giant Emirates, has lavish expansion plans that should help both Boeing and the Pacific Northwest region to grow.
With Emirates already the largest operator of big 777 widebodies in the world, he'll visit Seattle on Monday to meet with Lars Andersen, Boeing's head of 777 advanced development. Clark is working closely with Andersen on Boeing's key project to design an updated 777.
Although Boeing has its hands full right now, Clark is pushing the company for a 777 revamp no later than 2018. He's demanding a 777 that will carry more passengers, fly farther and be 10 to 15 percent cheaper to operate.
"That's the task we set them," Clark said "And my goodness, they are moving on this."
As for the region, Emirates will soon fly 777s in and out of Seattle daily. In a phone interview Wednesday, Clark said the newly announced service from SeaTac to Dubai, starting March 1, will open up the city to the Middle East, Africa, India and other parts of Asia.
"We'll open the door," Clark said. "People will see what we are doing and move with us."
Boeing intends to bump up production of the 777, its most lucrative widebody program, to an unprecedented 100 jets per year by early 2013.
Airbus has no rival to the 777 but is preparing one — the mostly composite A350-1000. At the Paris Air Show in June, Airbus announced a two-year delay in that program until 2017 to give Rolls-Royce time to develop a new, bigger engine to power its jet.
That gives Boeing a little more time, too. But Clark said his older 777s will be retired in 2017 and he wants Boeing's upgraded version to replace them.
The 777 revamp will likely include a new 787-style carbon fiber-reinforced plastic composite wing that will save weight, Clark said.
"If they can get a ton or two out of the wing by going with composites, this is something they really ought to be getting on with," he said. "The industry is very, very hungry for technological advances to improve the cost of operation, particularly in fuel."
Happily for Boeing, Clark wasn't happy with Airbus' A350-1000 announcement in Paris, which he said was done without consulting him in advance.
He said Rolls is making a presentation on its proposed new engine for the Airbus jet to his engineers in Dubai on Thursday. But he's doubtful the latest design will be powerful enough for such a big airplane in the very hot temperatures and low-pressure conditions of Dubai in the summer.
Nevertheless, Clark said both Boeing and Airbus will emerge from all their current struggles with new airplanes with technology that greatly advances aviation.
Clark won't be ordering Boeing's newest widebody jet, the freshly delivered 787 Dreamliner, which is too small for his needs. But because its new technologies will transfer to the 777, he's paying close attention to its introduction into service.
Clark said the Japanese domestic routes will be a tough test, with short, full flights into busy airports where luggage carts and food carts will bang into the airplane. How will the composite skin and all the new airplane systems hold up?
"Everybody, including Boeing, is watching that with a magnifying glass," he said. "They'll learn from all of that. Everything will be plowed back into design and development at Boeing."
In the end, he said, the Dreamliner will be a great airplane. Looking back in 10 years, Boeing will conclude that, "Yes, it took a lot of pain; but now we have the platforms of technology on which we can do other things," Clark said.
And by then, Emirates could be much bigger than it is now, dominating the airlines of the world.
The U.S. expansion announced Wednesday, with new flights from Dubai to both Seattle and Dallas, comes as the world economy teeters on the brink of recession.
"It's not a good time," Clark admitted, "but when is?"
He said Emirates will take delivery of 52 widebody jets in the next 20 months — 777s from Boeing and A380 double-decker, superjumbos from Airbus — and "come hell or high water, nothing is going to stop us bringing those airplanes in."
London-based veteran airline consultant John Strickland said Seattle's gain is Vancouver's loss.
Emirates was keenly interested in expanding into Vancouver, B.C., but was blocked by the Canadian aviation authorities to protect Air Canada.
As a result, Seattle may see a boost in both business and tourist travel.
Strickland said Emirates has tended to expand business at all the airports it has gone into, generating new traffic.
When Emirates started flying to Shanghai, he said, unexpected traffic growth arose from Chinese businessmen and engineers traveling to Africa. When it opened its flights to São Paulo, Brazil, Japanese travelers filled planes en route to the thriving Japanese community there.
In India, said Strickland, Emirates has become the de facto national airline. "They are where Air India would have been if it had been better managed," he said.
Clark said he expects a healthy traffic between Seattle-area software companies and the "silicon areas" of India where software is a big export.
And of course, jet-setting Boeing executives will likely also be big users of the Emirates business-class cabins out of Seattle.
"They ought to be," said Clark. "I'll be telling them in no uncertain terms."
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Les journalistes font trop d'efforts pour 'faire l'actu' quand il n'y en a pas ! Et Tim CLARK joue trop "l'Entertainer" afin de préparer la Salon de DUBAI !
Si Boeing joue le court term, Tim CLARK pourrait obtenir ce qu'il veut ! Bon pour Emirates, peut-être, ... pour le court & / ou moyen termes, .... mais pas pour Boeing. De même que beaucoup de professionnels s'opposaient à ce qu'Airbus fasse plaisir aux caprices de Tim CLARK / Emirates, pour son 'marché de niche', pourquoi ne le feraient-ils pas, si Boeing donnait l'impression de se laisser séduire par "Entertainer Tim" ?
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Re: Emirates : EK : UAE
par Jeannot Mer 12 Oct 2011, 10:32
Emirates Wants Boeing 747-8F Improvements
Emirates Sky Cargo is “waiting to hear from Boeing“ on the latest performance specifications for the much-delayed Boeing 747-8 freighter as Cargolux continues to negotiate with the airframer over the terms and conditions for the delivery of its first two aircraft. Emirates Divisional Senior VP-Cargo Ram Menen says the airline “wants to see improvements” in the aircraft’s performance.
Cargolux, backed by its new major shareholder, Qatar Airways, refused to accept its first two 747-8Fs in September, citing disagreement over contractual issues. On Oct. 1, Cargolux announced that it had reached a tentative agreement with Boeing over the contractual issues and that further details would be revealed Oct. 7 after the deal was signed and the Cargolux board met. When Friday, Oct. 7, rolled around, however, Cargolux did not reveal details, instead saying that negotiations would continue over the weekend. As of Tuesday, there still was no word of an agreement being reached. The first Cargolux 747-8F delivery had been tentatively rescheduled for today.
Emirates Sky Cargo has five 747-8Fs on firm order and five more on option. The carrier already has pushed back delivery dates for the aircraft and now expects the first at the end of 2013. That is also when the promised General Electric (GE) performance improvement package should be fully available. The first batch of engines is understood to feature a 2.7% fuel burn shortfall.
The airline also is taking delivery of a fourth Boeing 777F next February and plans to limit its freighter fleet to the two types plus several Boeing 747-400Fs on wet-lease. Menen says Emirates would not be interested in a possible Airbus A380F if and when Airbus would reoffer the aircraft.
Having been among the fastest growth carriers in the cargo segment, Emirates Sky Cargo feels the effects of the ongoing market uncertainties. Business has essentially been flat in August, according to Menen, after a 1,2% gain in July. Imports into Europe and the U.S. have been “very weak,” as have been Chinese exports, but Emirates Sky Cargo benefits from its proximity to growth markets in Africa and the Middle East. Menen is hopeful that with the political situation in the Middle East stabilizing, demand in the region will grow steadily on the cargo side, as it has in the passenger market.
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Re: Emirates : EK : UAE
par SEVRIEN Mer 12 Oct 2011, 11:37
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Il n'est pas étonnant que TC / Emirates se soit joint au 'Groupe de Mécontents' ! Emirates et ses dirigeants ont raison de prendre cette position.
Ceci confirme et souligne l'aspect que, comme écrit dans nos nombreux posts, ce dossier de non-respect des promesses de performance n'allait pas disparaître dans le silence et l'oubli, ou se résoudre rapidement ou facilement.
Bien entendu, des solutions et compensations adaptées à chaque cas, sous-tendues par un engagement pertinent général, donné rapidement, sans tergiversations, par GE & / ou le tandem Boeing-GE, pourraient, sans doute, éviter que le problème ne se prolonge indument.
Mais, cette affaire pourra faire date ! Elle pourra établir une fois pour toutes, que, dans des cas pareils, les "airframers" et les motoristes ont des responsabilités, comme nous l'avons souvent rappelé ! :|
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Re: Emirates : EK : UAE
par Jeannot Sam 15 Oct 2011, 17:16
Mais est-ce avac ous sans les moteurs ?Emirates price tag for an A380 stands at $234,000,000
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The Airbus list price of an A380 currently stands at $375.3 million, providing an interesting glimpse into what Airbus' largest superjumbo customer is paying for its new aircraft. At $234 million, Emirates is receiving a 38% discount off list price, which is not far off the industry standard for the magnitude of the carrier's order.
What's not clear from this figure is if the price of the Engine Alliance GP7200 engines, which list for $16.6 million each, is included in that price. Further, what share of the price includes the extensive interior customization and in-flight entertainment is also not known, but at the price Nimrod is paying, you begin to get a rough sense of the share that revenue that actually goes back to Airbus.
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Re: Emirates : EK : UAE
par SEVRIEN Sam 15 Oct 2011, 17:59
- en général, aujourd'hui, les moteurs sont 'vendus' ou 'mis en leasing' sous leurs propres contrats, et les motoristes et Lessors, le cas échéant, font leurs 'montages' entre eux ;
- il y a des contrats spécifiques entre les motoristes et les acquéreurs qui font leurs 'acquisitions' ou contrats (sur base 'power-by-the-hour') ;
- bien sûr, il peut y avoir des accords du type "TotalCare" (entre les motoristes et les acquéreurs), qui soient séparés ou intégrés à la command-moteurs principale, .... ou aménagés de manière appropriée, pour couvrir tous les angles et axes contractuels, s'il y a des Lessors dans les circuits ;
- bien entendu, on peut mettre une dernière touche, concernant les moteurs, si jamais les premiers montages cèdent la place à une opération de 'vente et lease-back' !
Il y a surement des spécialistes parmi nos membres, qui peuvent améliorer sensiblement ces vulgarisations rudimentaires ci-dessus !
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Re: Emirates : EK : UAE
par Jeannot Ven 21 Oct 2011, 10:18
Creating a Giant
Tim Clark has spent the past quarter of a century building the ultimate big boy’s toy. Along with his Emirates management team, Clark has created a global network carrier flying state-of-the-art airliners to every corner of the globe with an on-board product up with the best, and a brand to die for. But he’s rattled a few cages on the way, as jealous rivals look on – some incredulously and others angrily – at the apparent ease with which Emirates has done it. Those rivals should be warned: Clark does not intend to slow down.
“We are still firm believers in our plan to globalise the Emirates network,” he says. “And this isn’t a token presence in a particular city via multiple intermediate points. This is a robust presence in the points that we serve on a minimum of a daily basis and eventually two or three times a day.”<
Clark has put the pieces in place. He has the right size, mix and number of aircraft in the fleet or on order, he has the route rights, the airport infrastructure and – most controversially for his rivals – he has the full support of his government. Sheikh Ahmed bin Saeed Al-Maktoum – the uncle of Dubai’s ruler Sheikh Mohammed – is chairman and chief executive of Emirates Airline and Group.
“I work very closely with Sheikh Ahmed. He’s the boss, and there’s nothing I do that he doesn’t sanction,” says Clark.
“Emirates arrived on the scene in the 1980s just at the time when the global economy was exploding, and off we went on that wave. There are those who in that post-1985 era couldn’t understand it and couldn’t climb to get there – and they’re still not there. We were born on that wave and able to move with the tide very rapidly.”
The airline now serves about 114 destinations across every continent and has a passenger fleet nearing 150 aircraft. As it works to establish that “robust presence” throughout the globe, Clark says flying transpacific services between points in the Americas, Asia-Pacific and Australasia is “the only piece of the jigsaw that’s missing. We’re just getting into the start positions – we have the West Coast of the USA, we have Chinese points, we have Asian points, we have Australasian points. So the Pacific is encircled and the next stage is to link the dots – we have the rights.”
Clark says if he could have his way this phase of the Emirates strategy would be initiated “sooner rather than later”, but he recognises the timing is not quite right yet. “We need to consolidate our market presence in places like the USA. We need to be as understood in the USA as we are, for example, in Europe.” The “underlying demand” Emirates generates through its huge network feeding into its Dubai hub means the airline is able to ride out the tough times. “We’ve always got people feeding into the system,” says Clark, who sees this continuing to expand as the airline grows and becomes even more global. “When I open the door of an aircraft in Dubai and I’ve got 40 points serving it, each with five people on, I’ve got 200 people on board simply because we are there in their markets.”
Growing Pains
The airline’s 148-strong all-widebody fleet comprises 45 A330/A340s, 15 A380s and 88 777s, as well as nine freighters (six 747-400Fs and three 777Fs). With the oldest passenger aircraft having been in service for more than a decade, a significant portion of the fleet will start to be phased out as more 777s and A380s are delivered.
“By September 2013 we’ll have 44 A380s and have taken most of our 101
“We’re gradually phasing out about 70 aircraft – A330s, A340-300s and 777 Classics. Most will have gone by about 2015 or 2016, although one or two will be retained longer.”
The current order backlog stands at about 115 aircraft, and the influx of new equipment combined with the roll-over will see the Emirates passenger fleet grow to around 185 aircraft by March 2013.
Continuous fleet growth fuels the endless need for more operational staff, with Clark revealing that just prior to the interview he had signed off another 1,000 flight attendants, who will join the airline by March next year. “That will take us up to 16,000 cabin crew,” he adds. While the Emirates expansion will continue, “behind the scenes we’re going to have to be a bit more thrifty because the stubbornness of the oil price is giving us concerns about the bottom line.
“We’re all a little bit concerned about what is going on in the global economy and the volatility. And when there is volatility it has an effect on demand.”
This concern will mean Emirates is more cautious about “the pace at which we increase production and stretch the network” and has seen the airline’s management given “some fairly stiff parameters” to reduce the costs of “inward-facing, back-of-house” functions. “We have been totally focused on growth – perhaps behind the scenes some of those costs have grown at a greater pace,” Clark says. “We’ve got to dig deep and go into structural costs to see where we can start pulling out 5-8%.”
The costs focus comes on the back of a stellar financial performance in 2010 by the Emirates Group, which posted a 43% rise in net profit to Dhs5.9 billion ($1.6 billion) on sales that were up more than a quarter to Dhs57.4 billion. The airline arm contributed the bulk of the profit, to the tune of Dhs5.4 billion, while passenger numbers rose more than 14.5% to 31.4 million.
The 2010-2011 financial year took a slight hit from effects of the Arab Spring, but Clark says the airline has “dealt with that” and is now optimistic about the political changes across the Arab World. “I’m a great opportunist and a great believer that the change will deliver good,” he says.
Clark says the airline’s system-wide seat load factor is running at about 78-79%, some three percentage points below where he wants it.
“The problem is with the oil price where it is, we’re facing a situation where fuel is almost 60% higher than what we were paying last year so the trick has been to ease up and better manage the income streams.
“That’s not necessarily putting up fares. We have to assess the various revenue segments in which we operate and try to improve the quality of business within those segments.”
Clark says he is surprised yields so far have stayed where the airline wants them. “In fact we’ve got more out of them this summer, but it was at a price – demand was affected. The rate of increase in the segments declined.”
Network Drive
Emirates’ continuous network development is currently seeing a drive to expand into the Americas, with several new destinations coming on line during the next few months, including points in South America (Rio and Buenos Aires) and the USA (Dallas/Fort Worth and Seattle). The latter market is one where Clark says Emirates must raise its brand profile and consolidate its market presence. The USA is a “really difficult nut to crack” as it is not a single entity, he says. “We’ll do that through adding more destinations and getting our marketing act together.”
Expansion is ongoing elsewhere too, with Baghdad, St Petersburg, Zambia and Zimbabwe all coming on line between now and February. China is a key market and a major area in Clark’s sights for growth. Three points are currently served, as well as Hong Kong.
“We want a lot more from China, at least another four destinations,” he says. “Asia is very strong and it will continue to grow for us. The groundswell of support from the consumer base in the Asian markets for Emirates is very strong. People vote with their feet.
“We need more access in to India. And we’ll be taking up our frequencies into Australia – going to 12 flights a day.”
But Clark, known for his candidness during interviews, is reluctant to divulge too much from his Emirates network master plan – for fear of imitation. “Whereas 15 years ago nobody was really interested in what we were going to do, the moment I say anything now I get five other carriers moving in there very quickly.”
His openness returns when discussing how Emirates expansion plans have fallen victim to politics in markets where government concerns have prevented the airline from gaining the greater access it has sought. This has been a problem in Germany, where suspected behind-the-scenes lobbying by Lufthansa has limited Emirates to only four gateways. Similarly, the airline has struggled to expand its Vienna services. “Austrian warned that it’s not going to make its 2011-2012 profit targets and we’ve come up against that first-hand because, ‘shock horror’, there’s a huge opposition to a second frequency into Vienna,” says Clark.
However, Clark believes the tide is already turning for the “keep them out” campaigns.
“Irrespective of the positions of the legacy carriers and alliances, there now seems to be a realisation – even amongst them – that this is not going to work. They’ve got to shape the way they go about their business activities to take us on.”
Clark admits he takes an “obtuse view” towards competition, be it from fellow Gulf airlines, any threat from China, or legacy rivals.
“I’m a great believer in competition and in the airline business itself. The more people that can buy A380s or 777-300ERs the better it is for all of us. It’s a paradox, but the fact is that I honestly believe it helps us to do the job better.”
Alliance Agenda
However, one aspect of modern competition he cannot abide are the global alliances, whose behaviour he likens to global “gang warfare”, threatening to stifle competition and prevent it being nurtured. “I’m so opposed to alliances because I believe they distort and channel and direct for the greater good of the alliance thing, rather than the consumers that are driving it all.” Clark says the alliances – particularly Star – have created “a fairly difficult, vicious structure internationally” and is concerned about how much of a threat Emirates is perceived to be. “We have learnt that we are considered to be the single largest threat to the Star Alliance group on the Planet today. While I’m hugely flattered by this, it is also a worry because it shouldn’t be that. There is actually room for us and our way of doing things, and the way they do. I don’t spend my time trying to take down Star Alliance. I’d rather work with all these airlines on an independent basis, and that’s what we do. Because I’ll always give business to the partners that we have relationships with.”
Emirates recently published a paper entitled Aviation at the Crossroads – Safeguarding Competition and Consumer Choice, in which it highlights recent tactics by the alliances that create a “join or perish” commercial incentive for non-aligned airlines. “The emergence of three mega-alliances presents public policy concerns that merit careful attention”, and could “harm consumers”, Emirates says in the paper.
Unsurprisingly, Clark says the thought of joining an alliance is “anathema” to Emirates. “There’s no point in even going there. You must have total command and control of what you do. You can’t allow yourself to be subjected to the whims of an amorphous board, like the Star Alliance, saying ‘you can’t do this, you can’t do that; you’ve got to buy this aeroplane; you’ve got to fly this route’. Not in the world as it is today. We want to move rapidly where we have opportunities, for example, to second or third-level airports. I don’t want to be told ‘you can’t go to that hub; I’m going there so you feed me’. Forget it.”
This sort of independent thinking has been central to Emirates’ early and continued success. “When the global economy took off, because we were totally focused on what we do, because we were not alliance-affiliated, we had nobody else to answer to and we did things the way we wanted to. We recognised in the mid-1990s that the world was changing rapidly and we had to adapt our business. We exploded the growth of Emirates, took on huge numbers of orders that shook the industry. We did that because we could see [demand for air travel] was going bananas.”
Fleet Forward
By comparison with the Emirates buying frenzy last year – that saw it order another 32 A380s and 30 777-300ERs – this year has been fairly quiet for the airline, so far. However, Clark already has his eyes on the next potential acquisition – a successor for the airline’s huge fleet of 777-300ERs.
His deep understanding of aircraft performance means he was never slow in getting stuck in with the design teams in Toulouse and Seattle as they developed their recent large widebody types. It is no different now. Clark has been quick to express his displeasure at the way Airbus has messed around with the design of the A350-1000 – for which he holds 20 orders and could potentially take more if the aircraft’s specifications meet Emirates requirements – and is pushing Boeing as it develops a 777-300ER successor, with the view to being a potential launch customer.
Airbus unveiled a revised specification for the largest A350 variant at the Paris air show in June, along with a two-year delay to service entry from 2015 to 2017. The changes centre on a modified, more powerful variant of the Rolls-Royce Trent XWB engine, along with increased weights to provide additional range capability. But Clark is not happy the revisions were implemented without any dialogue with Emirates. “If they had talked to me, I would have said: ‘[The improvement is] not good enough’,” he says.
“On paper, the old -1000 was hugely economical – it was a 777-300 classic replacement. That’s why I talked about converting my -900 orders.” But that possibility has dimmed with the changes, and Clark hopes Airbus’s US rival could hold the answer. “There’s a lot of work going on [at Boeing on the new 777], and we’re involved in it.”
Clark has informed Boeing that Emirates needs a twinjet capable of flying a 50-tonne payload – by its rules – between Dubai and Los Angeles. Today that route is operated by a 777-300ER, with a payload of about 35-37 tonnes. “I keep telling Lars Anderson [head of Boeing’s 777 Advanced Product Development team] that I’m already flying the -300ER there, so give me an aeroplane that can do it reasonably so I’m not shedding payload to get us there,” he says.
When he is not busy assisting the airframers with their product development strategies, Clark is also taking a leading role in a push to shake up IATA post Giovanni Bisignani.
His now famous observation from the floor at this year’s AGM that the association was perceived as being “run for the few, by the few” was part of an effort by a group led by the Gulf carriers to see reform at IATA under the stewardship of newly appointed director general Tony Tyler.
Participation in the management of another airline is a strategy that Clark indicates he is in no rush to repeat, after the experience Emirates had when it acquired a minority stake in SriLankan Airlines in 1998.
“We were in there for 10 years and spent a huge amount of time on the project,” he says. “I was down there six times a year, even with Peter Hill running it.”
Although Clark jokes that British Midland International could be available to buy from Lufthansa for “200 million”, he says there is “nothing on the cards” at the moment for Emirates to buy into another carrier. “But we never say never,” he adds.
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par SEVRIEN Lun 24 Oct 2011, 07:45
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Emirates flight in emergency landing
Technical snag forces A380 to land in Hyderabad
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Dubai: A Dubai-bound Emirates flight from Bangkok made an emergency landing at Hyderabad's Rajiv Gandhi International Airport in India yesterday due to technical problems.
An Emirates spokesperson told Gulf News in an e-mailed statement: "Emirates can confirm flight EK 385, an A380 aircraft from Bangkok to Dubai, was diverted to Hyderabad international airport today at 03:45 hours due to a technical snag in the aircraft," adding that all 410 passengers aboard disembarked safely.
Of those, 205 passengers later departed on EK 527, a Boeing 777 aircraft, at 10:20 local time, Emirates said, and a relief aircraft was deployed to carry the remaining passengers.
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Incident: Emirates A388 near Chennai on Oct 23rd 2011, hydraulic failure
By Simon Hradecky, created Sunday, Oct 23rd 2011 14:30Z, last updated Sunday, Oct 23rd 2011 14:56Z
Mais, ....une chose est certaine : le manque de transparence rudimentaire et de courtoisie à l'égard des passagers commence à agacer, et ne sera plus tolérée longtemps (on ne parle pas des détails techniques d'une enquête officielle, ou ceux réclamés par les media et les grandes gueules bien connues des media 'spécialisés' de l'aéronautique, et de leurs soi-disant experts -- les vrais savent patience & silence garder -- et de certains experts auto-proclamés des 'réseaux sociaux). EMIRATES est coutumier de cette approche dire le minimum, ... et, hémlas, ... de dire le minimum courtois. Là, on n'entend plus Entertainer Tim ! Pire, chaque fois qu'il s'agit d'un "airliner" à motorisation GE (ou d'une alliance où GE est partie prenante, comme dans le cas de moteurs de l'EA -- GE & P&W --, il n'y a jamais, ... jamais ... un bon "reporting" préliminaire. Mêm quand on 'sait' ('a appris de source sure') qu'il y a eu explosion de TGB et un IFSD, par exemple. Le marché le sait, et n'approuve pas ! Et, dans ce cas, le passagers pourraient finir par donner de la voix ! Il y a peut-être un début de retour de passagers ayant visité la Nouvelle Zélande pour la Coupe du Monde de Rugby. Emirates a joué un grand rôle dans les opérations de transport aérien liées à cet événement. Pour cela, il convient de féliciter la Cie. Pour ce manque de transparence rudimentaire (ce n'est pas la "faute" de l'équipage, ... qui est "aux ordres" ! ), elle mérite un 'carton jaune' (ou un coup de pied aux fesses, .... c'est selon l'humeur de l'arbitre). Dossier à suivre. Mais, y aura-t-il suite (publiée) ? |
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A ce stade, RR ne semble pas s'agiter outre mesure ! Qantas semble un peu "edgey" !Embattled Australian carrier Qantas Friday diverted one of its superjumbo A380 planes to Dubai after it developed an engine problem, a spokeswoman said.
Qantas flight 31 from Singapore to London was carrying 258 passengers, four pilots and 21 cabin crew when it was forced to change course. It landed in the United Arab Emirates early Friday.
"QF31 Singapore to London has diverted to Dubai this morning following an issue with the aircraft number four engine," the spokeswoman told AFP, adding there were no further details currently available.
"In line with standard operating procedures the engine was shut down and the aircraft is expected to land without further incident."
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S'il s'agit du 'problème pylône', récemment signalé, ... cela est le problème de l'Airframer, Airbus, et non pas du motoriste RR.
L'AD émis, récemment, concerne Airbus, qui est en train d'apporter / faire apporter les modifications, ..... qui seront bientôt terminées pour tous les moteurs & avions en exploitation (les pylônes 'new-build' étant fabriqués directement selon ne nouveau standard, sans besoin de "re-work").
Ce n'est absolument pas un problème RR ou du moteur RR Trent 900 !
Mais on comprend, aisément, que certains aient du mal à comprendre cela, ... ou, dans leurs mauvaise foi et parti-pris, ne veuillent tout simplement pas l'admettre.
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D'ailleurs, en ce qui concerne les incidents-moteurs, ils feraient bien mieux d'aller regarder plus profondément le récent incident (bien signalé) sur le GP7200 de l'EA, qui a obligé le déroutement avec IFSD, et atterrissage d'urgence en Inde, d'un A380 d'Emirates.
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Re: Emirates : EK : UAE
par Jeannot Sam 05 Nov 2011, 10:55
Emirates : Airbus A380 contre A350.
Le prochain Salon aéronautique de Dubaï sera l'occasion pour Emirates de passer une nouvelle commande d'Airbus A380. Pas moins de 30 exemplaires supplémentaires portant le total des A380 commandés par la compagnie à 120. Mais, et cela fait partie du contrat, Emirates annule sa commande pour vingt A350-1000, estimant qu'elle ne peut attendre 2017-2018. Du coup, le transporteur passera commande pour un nombre similaire de Boeing 777-300ER, contrat qui sera aussi dévoilé au Salon de Dubaï.
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par SEVRIEN Dim 06 Nov 2011, 01:22
Encore une Annonce d'Entertainer Tim !Jeannot a écrit:Lu dans le N° 2286 (Sevrien : d'Air & Cosmos) du 4 novembre 2011...Emirates : Airbus A380 contre A350.
Le prochain Salon aéronautique de Dubaï sera l'occasion pour Emirates de passer une nouvelle commande d'Airbus A380. Pas moins de 30 exemplaires supplémentaires portant le total des A380 commandés par la compagnie à 120. Mais, et cela fait partie du contrat, Emirates annule sa commande pour vingt A350-1000, estimant qu'elle ne peut attendre 2017-2018. Du coup, le transporteur passera commande pour un nombre similaire de Boeing 777-300ER, contrat qui sera aussi dévoilé au Salon de Dubaï.
Il reprend ses habitudes de gosse de négocier par les media ! Aurait-il un problème qui ne relève pas de l'aéronautique, ou de l'aviation ? Lequel ?
Les USA, refont-ils des misères à Emirates sur le plan politique de nouveau ?
Boeing, voudrait-il que le standard mondial de Boeing pour les "Superbi" de "400 places & +" soit basé sur le caprice d'Emirates / "d'Entertainer Tim", et sur son marché de niche ? Mais non, voyons !
Et Boeing, qui se veut le roi des composites, va-t-il essayer de combattre Airbus avec un "re-winged, tin-tube stretch", avec des moteurs GE 90-115B 'évolués' et "roi des IFSD" dernier-cri ? Soit d'une technologie déjà dépassé de loin par celle de l'A350-XWB et des moteurs RR Trent XWB ? Boeing n'a pas plus d'ambition que ça ?
Un plat réchauffé, à peine mangeable, et qui donne des indigestions à ne plus en finir ? Et Entertainer Tim / Emirates se contenterait de ça ? De ça ? D'un machin de deuxièmecatégorie? D'un avion de deuxième niveau,... de deuxième division ? La médiocrité, quoi !
Et puis, si RR (et / ou même P&W) insistait, Boeing ne pourrait même pas accorder une exclusivité à GE (Anti-Trust oblige, ... aux USA et en UE), pour une 'déclinaison' du GE90-115B ! Vous vous rendez compte, .... un moteur de technologie dépassée,... larguée, et dont tous les "new-build" aurait la haute distinction douteuse d'avoir un ancêtre (père ou grand-père), dont chaque exemplaire "new-build" entre aujourd'hui en exploitation sous un régime de surveillance rapprochée de la FAA (elle-même sous la surveillance rapprochée du NTSB), qui va durer pendant de nombreuses années encore. Quel "Manager" sérieux, vrai professionnel, d'une Cie. aérienne, voudrait d'une motorisation pareille ?
Entertainer Tim, se contenterait-il de ça ? "Would Entertainer Tim settle for that ? " Avec l'A350-XWB-1000 et son RR Trent XWB-1000 en face ? Vraiment ? Il doit être fatigué !
Il serait étonnant que Tim CLARK / Emirates annule sa commande d'A350-XWB-1000, ancienne ou nouvelle définition, ... du moins, ... impunément.
L'historique juridique fait qu'il ne puisse pas le faire (Airbus et RR pourraient exiger un ordre de "specific performance", .... obligeant Emirates à s'exécuter, .... et le procès n'aurait pas lieu à Dubai, ou sur le sol américain, ... mais sur territoire neutre, .. à Génève, par exemple), .... surtout quand, en représentant Emirates, il avait, comme tout le monde le sait, donné son accord oral (c'est une offre et une promesse contractuelle ; on n'est pas sous le Code Napoléon ! ) et qu'il avait même indiqué ses nouvelles spécifications 'à minima', avant d'aller parler à Boeing !
Aussi, que ferait Emirates pour compenser RR ? Tout est possible !
Commander les 30 x A380 à moteurs RR Trent 900 ?
Possible, parce que, dans l'état actuel des choses, les versions du GP7200 de l'EA, qui sont ou deviendront disponibles, ne pourront jamais fournir les performances, dont vont bénéficier les clients RR, ... performances que l'on va trouver bientôt sur l'A380-800, équipés de la nouvelle version du RR Trent 900, en "retro-fit" ou en "new build" ! Et si Emirates veut vraiment commander la version "stretch" de l'A380-800, soit l'A380-900, il ferait mieux de commencer à connaître les possibilités de RR, car, selon les dernières nouvelles, il ne saurait y avoir d'évolution du GP7200 de l'EA capable de faire le job (rien de prévu, ... et le GEnx n'y est pas, .... déjà dépassé ; pensez, donc, au GE90-115B, dont le technologie est, déjà, vraiment du "old hat", ... vraiment) !
Ou Emirates, va-t-il accepter des A350-XWB-900 en plus, pour maintenir la commande de 70 avions, ... ou un nombre légèrement accru, pour compenser le PUC perdu avec l'annulation de ses 20 x A350-XWB-1000 ?
Remarquez, ..... Tony Fernandes d'AirAsia X, pourrait commander / prendre les A350-XWB-1000 abandonnés par Emirates (le cas échéant) , et, par là, devenir une des vedettes du Salon de Dubai ! Aussi, si SIA décidait de passer une commande pour des A350-XWB-1000 au Salon de Dubai, personne ne se passionnerait pour une affaire de menace d'annulation, ou de vraie (tentative de) annulation de commande par Emirates, .... sauf les avocats ! C'est guignolesque ! Encore une sortie futile et stérile d'Entertainer Tim , qui commence à donner trop dans le cirque !
Il donne le spectacle triste du Clown qui n'arrive plus à faire rire les enfants ! Mais, c'est vrai, en face, ce ne sont pas des enfants ! Il se trompe d'auditoire ! Il ne s'adapte plus à son auditoire ! Dommage ; il pourrait avoir des choses intéressantes à nous dire !
De toutes les façons, Boeing ne pourra même pas essayer valablement de réaliser un B777-300ER 'revampé' (que seul Emirates veut ; personne d'autre , ... même si BA est prêt à regarder une présentation de Boeing, .... mais BA ne voudrait vraisemblablement pas de motorisation GE) , pour 2020 ! Pour 2020 ?
C'est pour cela qu'Airbus est prêt, sans sourciller, à repousser jusqu'à 2017 / 2018, l'EIS de l'A350-XWB-1000, voyons ! En outre, surtout lorsqu'Airbus sait que c'est un machin 'revampé' que Boeing serait en train d'envisager (sauf tentative par Boeing de dérouter / tromper Airbus). Tout le monde sait qu'il faudrait un remplaçant d'un "design" commençant à partir d'une feuille blanche pour le B777-300ER ! Même Boeing le sait !
Car, pendant tous les mois / années de discussions avec RR,... avec RR, .... en vue du remplacement des B737-NG actuels, par un avion vraiment de "toute nouvelle génération", à partir d'une feuille blanche, Boeing a appris, compris et 'palpé' les raisons pour lesquelles il lui faudrait sortir de cette ornière de machins revampés, dans des opérations du style MAX & NEO !
Regarder le désordre ineffable de son revamping du B747-400 pour faire le B747-8 ! Boeing a compris !
Entertainer TIM ferait mieux de fermer son clapet !
Ce n'est pas ce genre de publicité qui va donner de la réussite au Salon de Dubai ! En outre, sa grande gueule, et ses déclarations provocatrices ne font rien pour le sérieux, la qualité, la dignité et les progrès visés par l'industrie aéronautique, l'aviation et le transport aérien !
Le style d'Entertainer Tim est vieillot. Il 'fatigue'. Tim CLARK ne divertit plus. Il casse les oreilles et les pieds à tout le monde, peut-être même à ses 'amis' !
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Re: Emirates : EK : UAE
par SEVRIEN Dim 06 Nov 2011, 03:08
- ne font rien de bon pour l'image ou la réputation d'Emirates ;
- réfléchissent une forme de bassesse qu'un CEO de Cie. aérienne doit assumer, ... car il s'agit d'une tentative de faire des négociations et du chantage, dans les medai, et via les media !
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par SEVRIEN Dim 06 Nov 2011, 10:30
OH, Entertainer Tim ! Ce serait vraiment un comportement d'enfant gâté ! Injecter de la vieille technologie, ..... dépassé, ... dans sa flotte, comme dans un état de colère de gamin !
On le voit, comme le gamin qui ne peut pas avoir le jouet qu'il veut, en train de piquer un "tantrum", et de donner des coups de pied dans les meubles !
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Re: Emirates : EK : UAE
par SEVRIEN Dim 06 Nov 2011, 10:44
Emirates a déjà signé son contrat 'ferme' pour l'accord TotalCare des moteurs Trent XWB des 70 x A350-XWB-1000, déjà commandés, y compris, bien entendu, le volet pour les RR Trent-XWB-1000. En outre, ce genre d'accord / contrat spécifie le principe, " .... moteurs actuels, plus tous les éventuels "up-grade" -- exemple : "mid-life upgrade", moyennant un ajustement du prix d'origine, le cas échéant, notamment en cas de "new-build" et / ou de "retrofit", ...... et de toutes les éventuelles évolutions d'usage" !
Où va-t-il, Entertainer Tim ?
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par SEVRIEN Lun 07 Nov 2011, 01:00
Indépendamment de la bonne nouvelle pour EADS / Airbus, cela lui permettrait de dire à Emirates, par exemple,
- "Airbus serait ravi de recevoir d'Emirates une commande supplémentaire d'A380-800 ;
- "mais ceci ne doit pas être amalgamé avec une annulation de la composante de 20 x A350-XWB- 1000 de la commande de 70 x A350-XWB, passée il y a quelques années ;
- "Emirates & Airbus sont contractuellement liés dans cette affaire, et il ne faut pas oublier RR, non plus ;
- "dans le milieu de l'aéronautique et de l'aviation, il n'est pas l'usage de laver son linge sale en public, ou de chercher à faire du chantage, ou d'exercer la pressions sur ses partenaires via la media ;
- "si vous cherchez, de nouveau, à déshonorer publiquement votre signature, comme Emirates l'a fait dans le cas de l'affaire de l'A340-600HGW (et ne pas oublier que l'A350-XWB-1000 a été quasiment taillé sur mesure pour vous, avec votre accord et votre collaboration dans la mise au point de sa configuration, en remplaçant l'A340-600HGW précité, cette affaire ne saurait faire l'objet d'un amalgame avec le marché des A380, ou avec celui de Boeing, et notamment, la transformation, par votre "moving of the goalposts", pour essayer de redéfinir l'avion comme un genre de 'Superbi-', que vous aimeriez voir remplacer l'actuel B777-300ER, technologiquement obsolescente, voir obsolète, et bien trop coûteux dans les opérations, et en terme de "Cost of Ownership" ;
- "si vous ne pouvez pas traiter cette affaire avec la dsicrétion d'usage, nous missionnerons nos avocats pour reprendre contact avec les vôtres ; il serait préférable de trouver un terrain d'entente, bien sûr, mais nou n'hésiterons pas à vous conduire devant le Tribunal ;
- "bien sûr, il y a une possibilité de conversion, entre les appareils de la famille A350-XWB ; Airbus serait ravi de vous voir convertir vos 20 x A350-XWB-1000 en 35 x A350-XWB-900, par exemple, ... ce qui résoudrait le problème pour RR d'une manière à la fois équitable et efficace ;
- "mais il n'y a pas de possibilité de conversion en A380 ; et, il serait futile de nous menacer, ou de nous faire du chantage -- ce qui n'est ni fait ni à faire dans nos milieux industriels et commerciaux, comme vous le savez -- , avec une commande de B747-8I, car, comme la planète entière, vous savez que ce dernier quadriréacteur de Boeing ne saurait se mesurer avec l'A380-800 ;
- "enfin, pour ce qui est des A350-XWB-1000, dans sa nouvelle version, nous avons une perspective de nombreuses commandes, de plusieurs clients, d'excellente facture, et malgré un certain regret, devant ce comportement d'Emirates, , ... que nous devons constater de nouveau, hélas, nous ne voyons pas de gros impacts négatifs sur l'imminent Salon de Dubai, ou sur notre carnet de commandes, ... mais le contraire ;
- "par contre, il est certain qu'Emirates se donnera en specatacle, ce qui serait doblement regrettable, étant donné qu'il est celui qui invite le monde entier sur ses terres pour ce Salon ;
- " il est toujours contreproductif de salir son propre nid ! "
Même dilué, par rapport au texte ci-dessus, ce scénario ferait plaisir à beaucoup d'acteurs, dans leurs moments d'humeur déraisonnable !
Il serait peut-être futile de l'espérer, mais il pourrait y avoir des commandes de l'A350-XWB-1000, placées par des Compagnies telles que (en vrac, sans ordre hiérarchique) SIA, Lufthansa, Etihad, AirAsiaX, Qatar... et d'autres encore !
"Wait & see" !
Dernière édition par SEVRIEN le Lun 07 Nov 2011, 07:57, édité 1 fois
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Re: Emirates : EK : UAE
par SEVRIEN Lun 07 Nov 2011, 07:55
Entertainer Tim CLARK : rappel de son inconséquence, ou, du moins, de l'inconséquence (trop fréquente) des propos qu'il tient.
Il ne s'est pas rendu compte que la "engine commnality" / 'communauté des moteurs' est un argument ayant peu d'importance aujourd'hui ! C'est GE qui l'a commencé (alors que la grande 'commonauté-moteurs' dans ses gammes était articulée des fixes pléthoriques, et incidents de pompage et d'IFSD), et qui a été le premier à reconnaître que les accords du genre TotalCare de RR le rendait obsolète !
Voilà Entertainer Tim qui ressuscite l'argument, ... bêtement, .... de manière vraiment idiote ! Il s'est plaint du manque de "commonality" du moteur RR Trent XWB-1000, redifini pour aider Airbus, que RR est en train de préparer pour l'Airbus A350-XWB-1000 redifini par Airbus, alors que ce moteur retiendra une "commonality" réelle de plus de 70% !
Mais, dans sa flotte de B777 (ou il y a les -200 / -200ER et -300, à moteurs RR Trent 800 d'une "commonality" à 100% ("same bill of matierial"; pur jus), .... et le B777-300ER (et une poignée de B777-200LR ? ) dune "communauté moteurs" de ZERO, par rapport aux Trent 800 précitées.
Il y a plus de communauté moteurs entre les RR Trent 553 des A340-500 Emirates, et les RR Trent 800 précités !
Quels propos inconséquents, enfantins, même !
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Re: Emirates : EK : UAE
par SEVRIEN Lun 07 Nov 2011, 10:15
Mais, ... pas question de retirer la moindre remarque ci-dessus.
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- Le Salon de DUBAI de cette année, 2011, est prévu comme le dernier à être tenu sur le site actuel. L'ambition est de faire en sorte que ce soit le meilleur salon sur ce site.
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par SEVRIEN Lun 07 Nov 2011, 12:12
Je propose de ne traiter que la section : "Fleet Forward"
Jeannot a écrit:Une longue Interview de Tim Clark un peu avant le prochain salon de Dubaï
Ce qui précède dans cet article est "du classqiue", à la sauce d'Entertainer TiM. Nous connaissons le narratif, qui ne mérité pas, et n'appelle pas de commentaire.
Les 'problèmes' / "issues" se trouvent dans cette section, ci-dessous.
Fleet Forward
.....Il ne faut tout de même rien exagérer ! Qu'est-ce qu'il peut nous sortir comme "hogwash & ***., ... trop souvent !By comparison with the Emirates buying frenzy last year – that saw it order another 32 A380s and 30 777-300ERs – this year has been fairly quiet for the airline, so far. However, Clark already has his eyes on the next potential acquisition – a successor for the airline’s huge fleet of 777-300ERs.
His deep understanding of aircraft performance.....
C'est vrai ! Le problème est.... qu'il est trop fréquemment un véritable "pain in the ass" ! Demander à Boeing et à Airbus !......means he was never slow in getting stuck in with the design teams in Toulouse and Seattle as they developed their recent large widebody types. It is no different now.
Oui ! Il a sorti son mégaphone, comme d'habitude ! Et il a décidé de tenter le "moving of the goal posts", pour qu'Airbus quitte les spécifcations de l'A350-XWB-1000, qu'il avait commandé ! Il est coutumier du fait ! CLARK fait ça tout le temps ! Il a cherché à le faire avec le B747-8 ! Boeing l'a entendu, l'a écouté, ... mais n'a pas pris en compte ce que disait "Entertainer Tim" !Clark has been quick to express his displeasure at the way Airbus has messed around with the design of the A350-1000 – for which he holds 20 orders and could potentially take more if the aircraft’s specifications meet Emirates requirements – and is pushing Boeing as it develops a 777-300ER successor, with the view to being a potential launch customer.
Mais il tente de refaire l'histoire ! Il n'a fait que critiquer l'A350-XWB-1000, qu'il / Emirates avait commandé, dans les mois qui ont suivi la signature ! Tim CLARK ne dit pas la vérité ! Il avait commencé à raconter ses bobards, accablant l'A350-XWB-1000, bien avant qu'il ne se soit tourné vers Boeing ! Il s'était rendu compte qu'Airbus était bien dans l'axe de fiche une raclée au B777-300ER (au moins 25%, peut-être 30% en matière de "fuel-burn efficiency", et de DOC ! Emirates allait se trouver 'scotché' avec un appareil de technologie vieillote par rapport à celle annoncée par Airbus pour l'A350-XWB-1000, surtout avec la supériorité criarde déjà visible de la motorisation du RR Trent XWB -1000, par rapport à celle du B777-300ER, soit le GE90-115B, manquant, aussi, de fiabilité.
Tim CLARK n'aime pas trop cette perspective ! Il veut la modifier, en essayant de persuader Airbus de transformer la variante A350-XWB-1000, en un véritable 'Superbi-' de 400 à 420 places, en config. cabine 3 classes Std., selon les normes modernes de confort spacieux, et ayant une charge marchande/ "payload'" de 50 tonnes, & étant capable de relier DUBAI à LA, contre le vent, sans escale !
"Entertainer Tim" avait passé des mois (en réalité, bien plus d'une année), à gémir et à geindre, avant la diffusion officielle de cette nouvelle ! Il ne dit pas la vérité ! D'ailleurs, c'est précisément parce que Airbus s'était montré disposé à offrir du "payload" suppléméntaire, et une distance franchissable convenablement accru, que Tim CLARK a décidé de faire encore plus de "forcing", pour essayer de faire en sorte qu'Airbus décide d'aller vers la production du 'Superbi-' précité de de 400 à 420 places ! Avec CLARK, Emirates rêvait de devenir 'client de lancement' de cette nouvelle variante, et déloger Qatar, parce que la position de Qatar comme client de lancement de la famille A350-XWB, est une chose qui agace profondément DUBAI !Airbus unveiled a revised specification for the largest A350 variant at the Paris air show in June, along with a two-year delay to service entry from 2015 to 2017. The changes centre on a modified, more powerful variant of the Rolls-Royce Trent XWB engine, along with increased weights to provide additional range capability.
Faux ! Il est bien connu qu'il y avait eu dialogue, que Tim CLARK a été bien écouté, ... mais qu'il n'avait pas convaincu, et qu'Airbus avait décidé de ne pas retenir les propositions, d'EMIRATES, sauf si le marché avait les mêmes exigences (ce qui semble ne pas être le cas, ... jusqu'ici) !But Clark is not happy the revisions were implemented without any dialogue with Emirates. “If they had talked to me, I would have said: ‘[The improvement is] not good enough’,” he says.
Ce n'est pas ce qu'il avait dit spontanément, au début ! Mais, il a fini par s'en rendre compte, surtout quand Qantas avait commencé à en discuter avec Airbus, en vue de vols "trans -Pacific" ! Il a lu nos écrits et ceux d'autrui, allant dans le même sens de nos dires ! Nous n'avons pas l'exclusivité de la capacité de réfléchir ! Emirates France traduit en anglais pour lui, ... pas mal de documents ! Surtout, quand lui et Emirates font l'objet de critiques !“On paper, the old -1000 was hugely economical – it was a 777-300 classic replacement. That’s why I talked about converting my -900 orders.”
Oui ! Mais il va falloir que Tim CLARK & Emirates honorent les contrats avec Airbus et RR, d'une manière convenable !But that possibility has dimmed with the changes, and Clark hopes Airbus’s US rival could hold the answer. “There’s a lot of work going on [at Boeing on the new 777], and we’re involved in it.”
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Le reste de l'interview, ... on connaît ! ;)
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Re: Emirates : EK : UAE
par SEVRIEN Lun 07 Nov 2011, 14:00
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Le problème de l'article ci-dessus est qu'il sagit d'un "patchwork" ou d'un panachage de nombreux articles déjà parus, avec une petite,... toute petite mise à jour "contextuelle'.
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A toutes fins utiles, je reproduis ici un message rédigé et posté ci-dessus il y a à peine 2 mois (vers le 10 septembre , 2011) dans toute une série de "tartines", qui a permi de constater les inconséquence d'Entertainer Tim CLARK :
SEVRIEN a écrit:Bonjour, chers tous.
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Il est inutile de revenir dans le détail sur tout ce que nous avons écrit sur Entertainer Tim CLARK d'EMIRATES et Qatar dans le contexte de l'A350-XWB et de sa motorisation RR Trent XWB.
Toutes nos analyses approfondies sont factuelles, vérifiables, et irréfutables, ..... et n'ont jamais été réfutées, d'ailleurs. Au contraire.
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Il est visible que Entertainer Tim a un problème.
Il a signé le contrat de commandes fermes avec Airbus pour 70 appareils (50 x A350-XWB-900 et 20 x A350-XWB-1000).
Il a signé son contrat pour les moteurs correspondants avec RR, ainsi qu'un accord "TotalCare" couvrant ces moteurs pendant une période de 10 ans (accord de US$2.2 milliards).
Pendant les périodes de discussion sur une éventuelle 'révision' de l'appareil, et de sa motorisation, il a pu dialoguer aisément. Il faisait partie des clients et dirigeants consultés.
Il a eu largement toutes les possibilités de dialoguer et de s'exprimer.
A tel point, qu'il avait espéré un moment que ses souhaits et recommandations seraient adoptés, ce qui aurait permis à TC & à Emirates de prendre (quasiment) le pas sur le client de lancement, Qatar.
Mais cela n'a pas été le cas. "Entertainer Tim" a été fortement déçu, et s'est mis en colère.
Al BAKER de Qatar, aussi, ... mais pas vraiment pour les mêmes raisons.
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Et Tim CLARK n'a pas pu trouver la diplomatie pour se comporter en Gentleman jusqu'au bout ! Il a décidé de s'exprimer, en donnant des coups de gueule, par 'media interposés' et en critiquant Airbus (et, ostensiblement, en cherchant de meilleurs faveurs chez Boeing ) !
Ce faisant, "Entertainer Tim" se donne en spectacle, et casse les pieds à la plupart des gens. Il donne l'impresssion d'être à bout se souffle !
Il est dommage qu'il n' arrive pas à faire anticiper le Salon de Dubai par des actions plus intéressantes !
"Entertainer Tim", ... qui se recycle en "Advisor in Design for Wide-body long-haul jets, and egines" ! On aura tout vu !
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Réactions ?
Il ne faut pas être dupe de Tim CLARK !
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Re: Emirates : EK : UAE
par Jeannot Dim 13 Nov 2011, 08:23
Emirates Embarks On New Growth Phase
Limited access to aircraft financing and global economic turbulence are less than ideal conditions to undertake a major expansion push, but this is the reality Emirates Airline has to accept as it embarks on a new period of growth.
For Emirates, the last few months have been relatively quiet, with the airline taking a pause in its fleet growth to reconcile its business and prepare booking systems, ground infrastructure and personnel for what is shaping up to be a growth spree that should run until 2018.
Under that fleet plan, Emirates expects to digest a massive influx of aircraft, at times absorbing two Boeing 777-300ERs and one Airbus A380 in a single month.
Between September and March 2013, the airline expects to grow its A380 fleet to 44 units, says airline president Tim Clark, including the high-gross weight version Airbus is putting into market in 2013.
But fuel prices hovering around $100 per barrel have also highlighted that the carrier is not impervious to setbacks. In the first half of its 2011/12 financial year, the airline reported a sharp drop in net profits from $925 million to $225 million and pointed at “unstable global economic, geopolitical and environmental conditions.” In announcing the results, chairman Sheikh Ahmad bin Saeed al-Maktoum said “ever climbing fuel prices which resulted in Emirates paying $1 billion more in fuel costs over the same period last year and fluctuating exchange rates.”
Emirates’ traffic growth, at 5.7%, also slowed remarkably compared to the 19.4% increase recorded last year, although that was still in line with airlines from other regions of the world. Capacity growth also slowed, increasing 8.2% compared to the 13.9% posted last year, but it was not enough to keep the load factor from falling 1.9 percentage points to 79.3%.
On the positive side, though, Emirates’ cargo yields and passenger traffic improved, so revenues increased 15% to $8.3 billion.
Clark shrugs off the relatively modest results, saying the business plan will not change. “This is against the background of unprecedented economic conditions. Against all that we are still managing to grow our business,” says Emirates’ president, adding, “the comfort we take in a reduced level of profit is if we can do it in these conditions, when it comes good we’ll be blasting ahead.”
Despite the adverse effect of rising fuel costs, Clark continues to eschew hedging strategies arguing that they are risky bets. He projects that even if fuel increases to around $110 per barrel the airline can make a moderate profit.
But even though management remains committed to its growth path, the airline is ready to change course in other areas. Having initially signed up to take the Boeing 747-8F freighter on lease from Dubai Aerospace Enterprise, Emirates has now decided to switch those to 777Fs, and has already fielded two from the lessor. Clark says the decision has nothing to do with the 747-8F missing some of its performance targets, but simply that the 777 fits better into its plan and has better economics.
Given its large involvement with the 777, Emirates also is keeping a close eye on Boeing’s plans to rejuvenate the widebody and has been urging the aircraft maker to make a decision on the proposed 777-8X and 777-9X.
The airline is looking to replace its -300ERs from 2017, so will want the new models ready by then. And according to Clark, Emirates will require about 8-10% better fuel consumption and improved aerodynamics from a new wing to deliver an aircraft that can transport around 360 passengers from Dubai to Los Angeles with some freight.
Also, Emirates is reassessing its position on the Airbus A350-1000 in light of the recent 18-month delay in its entry into service. Emirates, which once considered switching most of its A350-900s to the -1000s, is now debating if the higher-weight, longer-range version is still a good fit. Clark wants to see more data on the product before making a decision, but if the -1000 is an ill-fit he says the airline can purchase more A380s.
Given its large fleet plans, the lack of liquidity for aircraft financing in Europe also is an issue the airline has to face, particularly after rules for export credit agency lending were tightened after European and U.S. carriers accused Emirates and other Middle East airlines of receiving preferential terms.
Clark says the situation is forcing Emirates to look at some “quirky” financing approaches, but notes that aircraft deliveries should not be impeded especially as Islamic banks are in a good position to provide financing and are starting to look more closely at backing aircraft purchases.
The motivation behind tightened export credit agency rules also is driving European carriers to seek new fair competition rules in bilateral aviation agreements. What such a rule will encompass is unclear, but it echoes claims made by Emirates’ European rivals that the Middle East carrier has received unfair support. Clark shrugs off the latest maneuver, noting that “if anybody wants to introduce a fair competition clause. I say bring it on.” But he warns that such a rule would also look at the backing European and U.S. airlines have received over the years.
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Re: Emirates : EK : UAE
par Jeannot Dim 13 Nov 2011, 08:25
DAE leases Nine New Boeing 777 Freighters
DUBAI - DAE Capital, the aircraft leasing division of Dubai Aerospace Enterprise (DAE), has reached an agreement to lease nine new Boeing 777 Freighters on a long-term basis to Emirates Airline. These aircrafts are from DAE’s order book with Boeing and will be delivered in the 2012 – 2015 timeframe.
Shaikh Ahmed bin Saeed Al Maktoum, Chairman and Chief Executive, Emirates Airline and Group, said: “This agreement ensures Emirates SkyCargo will receive a pipeline of new, state-of-the-art, freighter aircraft over the next four years. Emirates SkyCargo continues to build on its leadership position in the global cargo market and these aircrafts will play an important role in this growth.”
“DAE is delighted to be able to further deepen its existing relationship with Emirates and deliver one of the most modern, technologically advanced freighter aircraft to assist Emirates as it seeks to serve increasing demand for global air cargo,"said Khalifa H. AlDaboos, DAE Managing Director .
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