Airbus A400M
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Re: Airbus A400M
par SEVRIEN Lun 28 Mai 2012, 23:57
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Dynamic Propeller Balancing
The most common source of aircraft vibration is the result of imbalance between the propeller
and drive train. The vibration created due to the imbalance can effect a wide range of aircraft
systems, such as:Dynamic propeller balancing is the process whereby an electronic balancing computer system and sensors are used to measure the vibration produced by the aircraft propeller and powerplant. Small trim balance weights are added to the propeller/crankshaft assembly to correct for errors in mass distribution and thus reduce the measured vibration due to mass imbalance to the lowest level practical. avionics, radio and indicator failure
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- avionics, radio and indicator failure
- alternator or generator failure, attachment bracket cracks, thrown drive belts
- vacuum pump failure
- wiring harness failure, chafing, terminal end work hardening failure
- fuel control failure
- leaky oil coolers, cracked weldement areas
- cracked or broken exhaust components, heat muffs
- cracked or broken carburetor air box
- baffle, cowl and sheet metal cracks
- broken or cracked engine/turbocharger mounts
The dynamic propeller balancing procedure can be done on any aircraft in a flight-ready state.
A small vibration sensor (accelerometer) is attached to the engine in a location where vibration due to mass imbalance is at the maximum--at the crankcase spine as close as possible to the propeller flange. A small tachometer pickup (photo-tach) is also mounted to the cowl or engine to produce a propeller tach signal. The engine is operated and the vibration and tach signals are processed by the balancing computer. The balancing computer measures the vibration level (magnitude) produced by the accelerometer which corresponds to the amount of mass imbalance which exists. The balancing computer also provides a "phase angle" which corresponds to the location of the mass imbalance on the propeller disk. The vibration and phase angle are used to compute a balance solution (weight amount and location). Once the prescribed weights are attached to the spinner bulkhead and the engine is run again, the computer "learns" the reaction to the weight and location of the trial weights installed and recomputes on each additional run process until the measured imbalance is found to be at an acceptable level. The entire process usually takes 3-5 runs and an average of 3-5 hours.
FAQs ("Frequently Asked Questions") :
My aircraft runs fine. Why should I have my propeller dynamically balanced?
The average aircraft which has not had a dynamic prop balance has a vibration level due to propeller mass imbalance of about .45 inches per second velocity (IN/S). This level is over four times higher than what is considered to be an acceptable vibration level for propellers and represents a significantly higher level of wear and fatigue on engine components, accessories, airframe structure, avionics and electrical components than recommended. This average level can be noticeable to pilots and occupants, however, we often say that vibration is like cholesterol. Its accumulation creeps up on you without your noticing. As it increases gradually, our bodies become accustomed to it and its increase becomes rather unnoticeable. As with cholesterol, it is advisable to have a “check-up” to see what your actual vibration level is at. We recommend having a “check-up” at least every 500 hours of flight.
Est-ce que ceci s'appliquerait aux moteurs de l'A400M ? Si non, .... avec quelle fréquence ? ******
What level of propeller vibration is acceptable?
In most cases, the vibration level due to mass imbalance can be brought down to a value under .10 inches per second (IPS) very easily. In a Dynamic Solution Systems study, the average level seen post-propeller balance was .039 IPS, however, our average is less than .024 IPS! Propeller mass imbalance dominates the vibration levels in a normally operating combustion engine. We do have the technology, however, to single out the engine combustion rate vibration values by cylinder to help determine the health of your engine.
Won't having my propeller dynamically balanced "mask" other problems?
No. An engine with internal or external problems which result in unusual vibrations will not respond to prop balancing in the same way that an engine which only suffers from mass imbalance will. Evaluating ALL of the vibration data obtained helps us determine whether vibration is due to a propeller/engine mass imbalance or if there are other problems causing excess vibration.
Noté et à noter.If I have a new or overhauled propeller, is there any reason to have it checked?
When a prop balance is performed by the manufacturer or overhaul shop, it is a static (NOT MOVING) balance, or "bubble balance," on the propeller only. Dynamic balancing is performed on the entire rotating assembly (engine, propeller, spinner, extension, etc.) in its normal operating configuration while the engine is running. Constant speed propeller blades are centrifugally loaded and seated in the hub only under operating conditions. The result is a true balance under all operating conditions. We recommend that at least 5 hours of time are on a new or overhauled propeller before dynamically balancing to allow for grease leveling, seating of bearings, shim wear, etc., to occur.
Since I have a geared engine, is there any reason to have a dynamic balance performed?
Geared engines have a greater need of dynamic propeller balance because the propeller mass is greater compared to the reduction gear box mass. Studies done by the U.S. Navy indicate that dynamic propeller balancing on turboprop aircraft results in 100% increase in TBO of reduction gear boxes.
Noter et à noter ! Le TP 400-D6 de l'A400M rdt un "Geared Engine".
When should I have the prop rebalanced?
We recommend checking the dynamic balance at the next annual or 100 hour TIS (Time In Service) to indicate the wear/imbalance pattern over time of your prop/engine system. (This would be the optimal solution.) Also, if a large nick is reworked or the prop is removed and reinstalled for any reason, the dynamic balance should be re-checked as the location movement on the crankshaft flange can cause an imbalance level in excess of .3 IPS. We recommend that a dynamic balance check be performed at least every 500 hours maximum TIS.
Noté et à noter ! Mais, voir questions ci-dessus. ******
"Question for you" :
Would you put tires on your car or truck without having a dynamic balance (spin balance) performed? Well, the propeller on your aircraft weighs as much or more than a car tire and can produce much higher vibration levels and is directly mounted to your engine. Why wouldn't you have the propeller dynamically balanced?
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Re: Airbus A400M
par SEVRIEN Mer 30 Mai 2012, 00:29
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Intéressant, ..... cet article sue le TP400-D6 d'EPI.
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IN FOCUS: EPI's bid to ramp up A400M engine production
By: Niall O’Keeffn London
3 hours ago
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Understatement was mixed with optimism as engine maker Europrop International (EPI) reached a programme milestone in April.
Absolument. Mais aucun membre du Consortium EPI, aucun Dirigeant d'EADS ou d'Airbus Military, ou d'Airbus (et, à fortiori, aucun amateur agité ou "Armchair Critic") n'avait l'expérience d'un tel projet d'avion ou de moteur en Europe, par rapport aux Acteurs de RR, et surtout pas par rapport à la combinaison de RR et de SNECMA, partenaires auxquels il a fallu accorder le Leadership Temporaire du Projet Moteur, dans le sillage du désordre laissé par le responsable espagnol et son équipe, choisis dans une organisation des plus baroques de "workshare" !"There's been a lot of controversy about the A400M programme and talk of delays," said Simon Henley, president of the Airbus Military transport's powerplant supplier, at a low-key ceremony marking handover of the first production-standard TP400-D6. "But actually, we should stay in mind that this has been a very rapid development for a military engine,
Ceux qui tapent trop vite dans le clavier, et sans réfléchir, ne se rendent même pas compte de cet aspect ! Ils sont tellement superficiels, tellement ignorants ! Ils racontent des bobards à ne plus en finir !.......particularly one that breaks as many new milestones as this one has - the first engine designed for civil certification but specifically for a military aircraft."
Oui ! C'est très 'parlant' !A measure for what counts as "rapid development" in the military powerplants milieu is provided by a line in EPI's corporate literature, which notes that the TP400-D6 "enters service just 10 years after the engine was selected".
Je reviendrai là-dessus ! Car j'ai obtenu la fin mot de l'histoire, ... de sources on ne peut plus fiables (bien différentes de celles des Forumistes d'ailleurs, qui débitent leurs avis pléthoriques et infondés !The serenity that prevails now contrasts sharply with the programme tumult of 2009, beginning in January when airframer parent EADS called for contract renegotiations and confirmed a major schedule slip, in which issues with the full-authority digital engine control were a factor.
At year-end, the partner nations remained in deadlock, even with flight testing under way.
NB : le vocable anglais "eventual" n'a rien à voir avec la signification du 'faux ami' ..."EVENTUEL" en français ! Dans ce contexte, ... ceci signifie "les accords qui ont fini par être obtenus".EVENTUAL AGREEMENTS
Oui. C'est dire, tout de même, à quel point la prise en mains du dossier par RR et SNECMA avait été efficace !In March 2010, EADS confirmed that agreement to amend the A400M deal had been reached with the customers, namely - in descending order of units in the backlog - Germany (53), France (50), Spain (27), the UK (22), Turkey (10), Belgium (seven), lone international buyer Malaysia (four) and Luxembourg (one).
However, it was not until May 2011 that Airbus and the EPI consortium - comprising MTU Aero Engines (which holds a 28% stake), Rolls-Royce (28%), Snecma (28%) and ITP (16%) - signed an amended contract to resolve issues linked to the A400M's delay. Days later, civil certification of the TP400-D6 by the European Aviation Safety Agency was confirmed.
Oui.What Henley terms "the Western world's largest-ever turboprop engine", rated at 11,000shp, was "tailored exactly for the A400M mission requirements", but the decision to pursue civil certification reflects a decision to adopt the principles of a commercial programme.
Absolument ! Mais, comme d'habitude, ... les "Armachair Critics' sont quasiment incapables de citer les cas où c'est l'architecture à 3 arbres qui a prévalu ! Et ils se permettent de critiquer cette architecture, ... qui est tellement plus efficace que celle à 2 arbres !"We've allowed the component technology to be based on the best in-service commercial and military practice," says Henley, citing the particular importance of "commercial design aspects". The engine's three-shaft architecture is "very well proven both in the civil world and... in military engines in the past", argues Henley.
Là, il s'agit de la thermo-dynamique. Quel motoriste est, 'sans contestation possible' , celui qui a le plus (et de loin ! ) poussé la recherche dans ce domaine ? Quel motoriste a fait le plus avancer le "health monitoring" ? Cela déplaît à beaucoup de monde en France, ... parce qu'il s'agit se RR ! Et c'st un ingénieur de la SNECMA qui nous l'a confirmé ! Il y en a qui devraient laisser leur chauvinisme au vestiaire ! Ce n'est pas le sujet ! Il n'y a pas place à bord pour le chauvinisme : Il s'agit seulement de rester sur le constat !Priority was also attached to life-cycle maintenance costs, reflected in modular design, efforts to optimise temperatures and engine health monitoring capabilities intended to allow on-condition support from an early stage.
Oui !"We've designed it for a civil-standard life, with all of the commercial reliability and availability aspects you'd design, but in a military environment," he says.
Là, il n'y a vraiment aucun problème ! Les essais sont faits pour ça !But even after civil certification was secured in May 2011, EPI would still have obstacles to surmount as the year wore on. An in-flight shutdown in June led to redesign of the engine's idler gear, while the inlet vane was tweaked after the discovery of high-pressure compressor blade fatigue.
C'est une performance remarquable !Still, EPI's engine type had racked up more than 10,000 flight-test hours and 20,000 running hours by the time it handed over the first service-bound TP400-D6 engines, which will equip A400Ms to be operated by the French air force from early next year. A total of 28 flight-test engines had been handed over to Airbus Military, which operates the A400M final assembly line in Seville, Spain.
Et ceux qui ne le comprennent pas, ou qui cherchent à minimiser cette performance, ne font que montrer qu'ils ne savent pas de quoi ils parlent. Ils ne font que révéler leur manque de crédibilité sur le sujet ! Même P&W reconnaît qu'il s'agit d'une excellente performance ! Mais, ... c'est vrai, ..... les scribouillards n'ont pas de contacts chez P&W !
Europrop InternationalThe French air force will operate A400Ms equipped with the TP400-D6 next year. |
Il y a beaucoup trop de 'pontifiants' qui ne se sont même pas rendu compte de ceci, ..... ou de ce que ces éléments signifient !In January, EPI was able to supply to Airbus the engine reports required to support the efforts to get the aircraft certificated. "We've completed the main aircraft certification tests from the engine point of view," says Henley. "We've covered the flight envelope, and we've done a significant amount of testing with one engine shut down to ensure that the aircraft handling capability with the three engines is as it should be.
C'est le but des essaus / des tests, voyons ! Il faut que les "Armchair Critics" arrivent à se mettre cela dans le crane" ! On sait que c'est difficile pour certains d'entre eux, ... mais il va falloir qu'ils fassent l'effort, s'ils veulent que leurs écrits soient pris au sérieux !We've conducted cold-weather trials down to -25˚C, we've done hot-weather trials up to ISA (international standard atmosphere) plus 25, and we've conducted high-altitude testing in South America - all of which have shown very few problems other than the ones you would normally expect out of a flight-test programme."
Oui ! Dans les circonstances, ... cela ne devrait pas poser des problèmes !Work will be undertaken later this year to complete a "qualification piece" required to gain military certification.
Bien !In the course of bringing the TP400-D6 to series production, assembly was consolidated at MTU Aero Engines' Munich facility and pass-off testing at MTU's site in Ludwigsfelde, near Berlin. Prior to consolidation, 20 flight-test engines had been assembled at Ludwigsfelde.
TP400-D6 TIMELINE
- 2002 Europrop International established
- 2003 EPI selected by Airbus Military to power A400M; consortium opens Madrid liaison office
- 2004 Preliminary design review; first intermediate pressure compressor test
- 2005 Critical design review; first control monitoring system test; first ground test
- 2006 First engine test with propellor; first series of altitude tests
- 2007 First engine to test in Seville; delivery of flying testbed engine
- 2008 Delivery of first engines to Airbus Military; first flight test
- 2009 Ground test hours pass 2,500; maximum power reached on flying testbed's second flight; first flight of A400M undertaken
- 2010 4,000 flight-test hours reached; certification testing completed
- 2011 Engine certificated by European Aviation Safety Agency
- 2012 First production engines delivered; flight-test hours pass 10,000
"Work-share" plutôt baroque !"This is very definitely a European collaborative programme, and has set out to make sure we learned some of the lessons from previous European collaborative programmes," says Henley. "We try very hard - in fact, we insist on - no duplication between the partners." EPI puts Snecma's workshare at 32%, Rolls-Royce's at 25%, MTU's at 22% and ITP's at 21%. The French partner handles the hot section - the combustor and high-pressure turbine - while its German counterpart supplies the intermediate-pressure compressor, turbine and shaft, plus the engine protection and monitoring unit and engine control software. UK-based Rolls-Royce is responsible for the high-pressure compressor, low-pressure shaft, intermediate casing, air and oil systems, and overall engine performance; and Spain's ITP for the low-pressure turbine and exhaust casing. The gearbox is subcontracted to Italy-based Avio.
Oui ! Certes, ... mais ici, MTU avaiy eu des difficultés avec l'aspect FADEC ! Nous reviendrons là-dessus !Having the TP400-D6 line at Munich was seen as a route to greater efficiency for MTU, which could move manpower between different lines - commercial and military - in line with surges and drop-offs. MTU boasts of its "vast experience" in military engine assembly at Munich, citing involvement in the Eurojet consortium, which builds EJ200 powerplants for the Eurofighter Typhoon.
C'est normal, .... et devrait être confortablement faisable !Twelve engines bound for French air force A400Ms are to have reached Airbus by year-end, plus two spares, and ramp-up plans provide for annual production to reach a peak of 120 in 2015. EPI aims to reduce the time to assemble and test a TP400-D6 from an initial 60 days to 30 days.
Oui. Aussi, le moteur est réputé être dôté d'une "built-in horse-power growth possibility", ..... capable d'assurer, en cas de besoin, 12,000 shp (flatt-rated) et 13,000 shp, pour les conditions " hot & high" !The engine is flat-rated at 10,000shp (7,460kW) at sea level, and has an uprated take-off capability of 11,000shp for hot and high conditions. "The SFC (specific fuel consumption) today, on delivery, is better than spec, and the initial margin in terms of turbine gas temperature is comparable with other modern turboprops," says Henley. "The engine is outstanding in its responsiveness... meeting all the certification and spec requirements with margin."
Europrop International. EPI'S T400-D6 WORKSHARE SPLIT |
Ici, "Wait & see" !Having delivered the first set of four engines, EPI is committed to delivering another two sets by year-end. In the meantime, more flight testing, include hot-weather trials, will be conducted ahead of the A400M's entry into service, for which a final software release also is due later this year, bringing maintenance capabilities within the package.
Talks on maintenance arrangements have been initiated with A400M launch customer the French air force - with Airbus as lead negotiator and EPI as a subcontractor - and MTU chief Egon Behle stresses the importance of success in this area. "For MTU, and of course also for our partner companies in their respective countries, it is now important to secure the in-service support contracts," he said at the handover event. He also acknowledged MTU's expectation that the share of business accounted for by military revenues will decline from 15%. "Because of this more limited future of military business, I'm quite happy that we have the opportunity today to celebrate an event that is connected with our military business," said Behle.
Under the maintenance concept pitched to the French, EPI envisions the customer conducting first-line maintenance of the aircraft and second-line maintenance, at a Bordeaux facility. "So, they will do the strip of engines to module level, rebuild of engines using new modules, and then pass-off testing," says Henley, adding that items below module level would be returned to the manufacturers for repair and overhaul. When it comes to engine-maintenance deals, EPI has a natural lead negotiator for each of the four biggest A400M customers: the constituent engine maker located in that nation. For customers such as the Turkish air force - due to receive the third A400M, after France has taken two - EPI as a group can handle talks.
Henley's faith in the TP400-D6 programme is evident when he asserts: "This programme continues to break new ground and it rewrites the manual for large turboprops." And it is with confidence that he looks to the future. "The next stage for EPI, beyond service entry, is support of export campaigns," he says.
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Re: Airbus A400M
par SEVRIEN Mer 30 Mai 2012, 15:00
Voici un article, ... de novembre 2004, .....qui a fait le maximum pour être objectif, et 'démêler les chevaux' dans son analyse de l'historique de la motorisation de l'A400M.
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Tracing the tangled roots
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Untangling the roots of today's TP400-D6 turboprop is almost as difficult as sourcing the DNA of the airframe. Although originally configured with turboprops in its initial FIMA study configurations, the notion of turbofans emerged strongly in the early FLA/Euroflag days in 1991.
By 1992 the FLA was firmly embracing studies of an "off-the-shelf" turbofan in the 18,000lb (80kN) thrust range, including a version of the BMW Rolls-Royce BR700 designated the RB583-04.
Oui. Mais tant de scribouillards et Agités anti-RR ne le savent pas ; ils ne l'ont jamais su ! Mais ils pontifient sur le sujet ! On est très raisonnable, .... en leur permettant une liberté d'expressions, dans laquelle ils démontrent qu'ils ont 'tout faux' , n'est-ce pas ? !
By the time of the 1993 Paris air show it emerged that Euroflag was even the target for a proposed multi-national 12,000-20,000lb turbofan concept dubbed Project Blue. The original team included General Electric, Snecma, MTU and Pratt & Whitney, the latter two eventually pushing the project into reality as the much-altered [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] turbofan.
On voit déjà le "ganging-up anti-RR" (mais ce 'projet bleu', concoction futile, ne méritait même pas de retenir l'attention ! Un ingénieur de la SNECMA m'a même dit, peu après cette époque époque : 'Cela ne valait pas un pet de lapin' (sic ! ).
Comme synthèse, .... ce bref paragraphe n'est pas mal.Arguing against the cost and tactical unsuitability of turbofans, planners within the FLA project continued to push for turboprops to stay part of the study. By early 1994 the focus was divided between turbofan and turboprop options, though the requirement for the latter was sketched out to be 9,000-12,000shp (6,700-8,900kW), a power range that straddles the engine eventually selected for the [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien].
A noter !
A noter !
By the end of April 1994, the turboprop protagonists seized the day with two main groups emerging to compete for the prize. The first, led by BMW Rolls-Royce, continued to offer a version of the BR700, while Snecma, MTU and FiatAvio joined forces to submit an advanced turboprop based on the core of the M88-2 engine developed for the [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] fighter. The argument by both was that turboprops would ultimately be cheaper and more rugged than turbofans in the rough field environment. It also appeared that a turboprop was more suitable to performing the very steep tactical approach required for any C-130 replacement.
OK ! On ne va pas remettre ça en question !
At the same time, it became obvious that the FLA needed an all-new turboprop to achieve the aircraft's projected high-altitude cruise speed target of Mach 0.72. Only slightly slower than the turbofan-powered C-17's Mach 0.77, the speed requirement, however, was to pose a stiff challenge for both teams.
Oui ! Mais moins de problèmes pour RR que pour d'autres, ... nen déplaise à certaines ! !
Speed was a big enough issue to cause trouble even beyond the apparent "volte face" over the selection of a turboprop, and differing opinions over the ability of the engine to meet the requirement threatened to split the partners.
Oh, oui !
By the end of 1994 the problems still rumbled along, this time with the then-chairman of Snecma, Bernard Dufour, questioning the turboprop decision as "inappropriate". Instead, to the shock of many, Dufour advocated a twin-engined turbofan-powered FLA based on a proposed 43,000lb-thrust version of the [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien]. However, the then-French defence minister Francois Leotard reaffirmed the commitment to the turboprop selection, and Snecma returned to the fray with details of its proposed M88-2 derivative, now called the M138. .
Manque de réalisme technique chez SNECMA ! Et cela va vite se voir (mais : pas la faute des ingénieurs de SNECMA)!
From 1995, the engine effort stabilised, with only the entry of AlliedSignal (later Honeywell) with a proposed AS812 turboprop variant of the TFE1042 turbofan, to distract the studies of the two main teams. In February 2000, Snecma, MTU, FiatAvio and ITP of Spain formally established Turboprop International (TIP), to develop the M138 for what had now become the A400M.
Although the team, based in Munich, was fully established and was competing against the BR700-TP then being proposed by BMW Rolls-Royce, the political need for a pan-European solution remained. .
Oh, ... oui !
Responding to political pressure, R-R opened negotiations with the TIP alliance members .
RR n'avait pas le choix ! Les autres, non plus ! Aah ! 'Trop de Politique dans le cockpit' !
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, but the stumbling block was Snecma's preference for its traditional twin-shaft M88-based core, versus R-R's three-shaft design. .
On le répète. Manque de réalisme technique chez SNECMA ! Cela a fini par se voir !
By mid-2000 a compromise was agreed under which R-R would formally join TPI with the understanding that the core would remain a heavily modified M88-2 based design, but incorporating three-shaft technology. .
L'adoption de la technologie de 'l'architecture à 3 arbres' constitue la reconnaissance formelle de l'inadéquation de l'architecture à 2 arbres du moteur SNECMA. Mais, la partie concernant le "core" ... et son "heavily modified M88-2 based design" reste problématique !
Les réactions de sensiblerie et de chauvinisme ne sont pas de mise ! Il faut les laisser au vestiaire ! Les faits de l'histoire suffisent ! "Read On" ! .
In September that year (2000), the newly expanded TPI , also including Belgium's Techspace Aero, signed a memorandum of agreement to submit a joint powerplant proposal for the A400M. At the same time, the separate bids from TPI and the original BR700-TP bid by R-R remained valid. .
Situation baroque, lourde et compliquée que l'on semble adorer en Europe Continentale !
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The joint bid was selected by AMC and the revised partnership was formally reformed as the Aero Propulsion Alliance (APA) joint venture the following June (2001) in recognition of its new role. .
Oui. Factuellement et historiquemet "accurate" !
MTU, R-R and Snecma each took a 24.8% share, ITP a 13.6% share, FiatAvio 8% and TechSpace Aero 4%. Although all seemed well, disaster was to follow ......
'Attendez' ! "Wait for it" ! Pour ce qui suit, ... nous ne l'avons jamais oublié ! Peut-être qu'on n'étiat pas tellement surpris. Peut-être qu'on attendait la nouvelle ! Je ne sais pas.
Le problème est que bon nombre de ceux qui pontifient aujourd'hui, .. qui débitent des âneries ici et là, .... n'ont jamais su ou eu connaissance de ce qui va suivre, ... dans les lignes qui viennent ! Il y en a même qui vont le décovrir, s'ils se donnent la peine de lire ce post ! ! Bien sûr, la plus part entre eux vont faire semblant de s'en souvenir ! Mais, à la lecture des âneries qu'ils écrivent depuis 2006, .... nous pouvons voir clairement qu'ils n'ont jamais su ces faits significatifs !
Ils devraient faire très atention, avant de taper dans le clavier ! Toutes réactions mensongères seront vite vues !
.....when, within only months, APA admitted that preliminary figures showed the modified M88-based engine would not meet the A400M's weight or specific fuel consumption targets. .
Eh oui ! Cela vaut bien la peine de le répéter :
- ".....when, within only months, APA admitted that preliminary figures showed the modified M88-based engine would not meet the A400M's weight or specific fuel consumption targets".
Ne jetons pas la pierre contre les ingénieurs de SNECMA ! Ce sont des gens compétents, lucides !et loyaux devant la tâche !(et nous l'avons vu ces 2 ou 3 deenrières années sur le projet EPI TP400-D6, ... où ils ont admirablment joué leur rôle, avec pas mal de discrétion, d'ailleurs). Il y en avait des paquets qui savaient d'avance que le compromis ne tiendrait pas la distance : "Heavily modified M88-2 core " !
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The event led to a frantic year in 2002 as AMC re-opened the competition and the APA team hastily went back to the drawing board. In the meantime FiatAvio and Techspace Aero pulled out of APA, the former because of Italy's decision to bale out of the A400M programme. Pratt & Whitney Canada, sensing an opportunity, entered the fray with a 16,000shp-rated turboprop based on its [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien]gas generator called the PW180, .
Oui ! Cette version de 16,000 shp était d'une dimension surfaite, ... exagérée, .. mais avait le mérite, tout de même, de réfléchir ce que P&W Canada était en mesure de réaliser !
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........while the reconstituted EuroProp International (EPI) presented details of its all-new three-shaft concept. The EPI team included Techspace Aero, now majority owned by Snecma, while Avio would later assume a key role as gearbox supplier.. .
Qu'aucun scribouillard ou, ou "Armchair Expert" agité vienne nous raconter qu'il y avait le moindre brin de concoction ou de compromis au bénéfice de la technologie de RR & / ou de son architecture à 3 arbres ! D'ailleurs, SNECMA devrait, en quelque sorte, être le premier acteur ravi, car c'est dans ce contexte qu'il a pu s'exprimer admirablement sur la partie chaude du moteur, et en tant que partenaire de projet, loyal et efficace, au sein du Consortium EPI, aux côtés de RR !
Delayed by the financial attraction of the P&WC bid, the AMC decision slipped into May 2003. .
Oui !
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The award, however, finally went to EPI, which had been forced to make serious changes to meet the 20% lower price tag of the PW180. The announcement provoked fury across the Atlantic, where the US Congress and United Technologies accused the European group of making political rather than price-based decisions. Unperturbed, EPI continued its build-up and in November 2003 opened its headquarters near Madrid.
Oui ! Et le désordre qui s'en est suivi n'a rien à voir avec RR & / ou SNECMA ! Il n'a pas grand-chose à voir, non plus avec le moteur ! Il a surtout à voir avec les inepties d'Airbus Military, à l'époque, avec les aspects de "work-share politique", et avec le "trop de politique dans le cockpit" ! :roll: ;)
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Re: Airbus A400M
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Initial candidate engines rated at approximately 6,898 kW (9,250 shp): M138 turboprop offered by Turboprop International SNECMA (33 per cent), MTU (33 per cent), Fiat Avio (22 per cent) and ITP (12 per cent) and based on SNECMA M88-2 core; Rolls-Royce Deutschland proposed a turboprop development of the BR715 turbofan, 8,949 kW (12,000 shp) BR700-TP; and Pratt & Whitney Canada offered a `Twinpac' version of the existing PW150. Required engine power, as defined by Airbus, was up to 7,457 kW (10,000 shp).
Choice initially settled on three-shaft 7,457 to 9,694 kW (10,000 to 13,000 shp).
Et qu'on ne vienne pas nous accuser, nous, (surtout pas nous) d'avoir du parti pris, ou d'être remplis de mauvaise foi ! Cela vient d'autrui, et d'ailleurs ! Et surtout de ceux qui apprendront ci-dessus, pour la première fois, comment il a fallu procéder à une toute nouvelle prposition EPI du TP400-D6 !
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Re: Airbus A400M
par SEVRIEN Ven 06 Juil 2012, 12:36
A Farnborough, 2012, L'A400M ne fera pas les vols de démonstraton, qui avaient été prévus.
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Il est vrai que nous avons pu lire, ici et là (surtout sur les réseaux sociaux, et les "Forums d'ailleurs) les délires usuels sur le moteur de l'A400M.
On nous parle des PGB ("Propeller Gear Box") des 'réducteurs' / "reducung gears", .... presque toujours en cherchant à qui imputer le 'blâme', ... ou 'du blâme' !
Il ne faut jamais entrer dans le 'jeu du blâme' ; cela évite d'avoir à en sortir. Mais si l'on y est déjà entré, ou bêtement tombé ....., il faut se sortir de là !
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FARNBOROUGH: Airbus Military pulls A400M out of flying display
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Engine issues have again curtailed the participation of the Airbus Military A400M in the flying display of a major air show after the manufacturer announced the type would only be shown on the static park at the Farnborough air show, which starts on 9 July.
"The decision to have the aircraft on static display only is based on engine issues that happened last week which need further investigation," says Airbus Military.
Instead, it will show the first production representative example, MSN6.
Langue de bois ? Surtout refus de répondre à des questions.Last year the airframer was forced to pull out of the flying display at the Paris air show after a flight-test problem in one of its Europrop International TP400-D6 turboprop engines halted all non-essential flights.
Flight testing continues at an "aggressive pace", it adds. "It is beginning to show the level of technical maturity required at first delivery, and we are pleased with the overall performance of the aircraft.
"Despite some engine maturity challenges, we are confident that we will find the right solutions and provide our customers with an aircraft that fully meets or exceeds the expectations."
At the end of June, the A400M had completed 1,180 flights, accumulating 3,535h since its first flight in December 2009.
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Re: Airbus A400M
par SEVRIEN Ven 06 Juil 2012, 13:34
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L’A400M privé de démo en vol à Farnborough
Le 05/07/2012 à 20:23 | Par François Julian
De quelle source vient cette "information" ?Après le Bourget en 2011, Farnborough risque également d’être un rendez-vous manqué pour l’A400M. Airbus Military a confirmé ce matin que l’avion ne serait pas présenté en vol lors du salon aéronautique qui se tiendra la semaine prochaine en Grande-Bretagne. "Grizzly 5", le cinquième prototype, sera uniquement présent sur l’exposition statique.
Comme l’an dernier à Paris, c’est un problème dans le boîtier réducteur de puissance (ou PGB pour Propeller Gearbox) qui est en cause.
OK. Compréhensible.Par mesure de précaution, le constructeur préfère pour le moment restreindre les vols de démonstration à basse altitude de son avion.
Oui. On s'en souvient.Pour autant, l’A400M devrait réaliser quelques passages bas en formation avec un C-17 et MRTT de la RA lors du Royal International Air Tattoo qui aura lieu ce week end à Fairford. Durant la manifestation, le quadrimoteur à hélices sera officiellement baptisé "Atlas".
C’est la troisième fois en un an qu’une avarie survient sur la PGB. En juin 2011, un problème de résonance avait entraîné la casse d’un pignon sur l’un des avions d’essais, et l’A400M n’avait pas pu faire de démonstration en vol au Bourget. Au printemps dernier, c’est de nouveau un problème sur ce boîtier réducteur qui avait entraîné l’immobilisation de "Grizzly 4" pendant près d’une semaine à Oman.
De quelle(s) source(s) vient ce détail ?La semaine dernière, c’est un problème de pollution (présence de débris métalliques) dans le circuit d’huile de la PGB qui a été détecté.
Quel Sénat ? Le Sénat français ? Question neutre, bien entendu ! :|Cette toute récente avarie a conduit à stopper temporairement les essais de "route proving" démarrés au début du mois de juin. Pour le moment, 160 des 300 heures de ces essais été réalisées. La conclusion de ceux-ci permettra à Airbus d’obtenir le certificat de type (TC) de l’A400M des mains de l’AESA.
C’est l’industriel italien Avio qui a conçu le boîtier réducteur du turbopropulseur TP400. Ce dernier, bien que certifié par l’AESA, n’a visiblement pas le niveau de maturité technique souhaité. C’est l’une des conclusions d’un rapport publié ce matin par la commission des affaires étrangères et de défense du Sénat.
C'est une consolation. Tant mieux."Il subsiste toujours aujourd’hui des incidents qu’il convient maintenant de traiter définitivement et de façon d’autant plus urgente que des échéances clés du programme se rapprochent (certifications civile et militaire). "Ce point doit demeurer sous étroite surveillance", ont noté les rapporteurs, estimant néanmoins que les avaries du TP400 ne sont pas de source à empêcher une première livraison à l’armée de l’Air entre janvier et mars 2013.
Noté.Le Sénat dresse un bilan globalement positif du programme, à l’exception de la mise en place du soutien : "la satisfaction légitime que l’on peut tirer de la livraison imminente des appareils contraste avec les inquiétudes que l’on peut avoir quant à la mise en place d’un soutien commun". Les rapportent (Sevrien , ... le 06 / 07 /2012 : "rapporteurs") regrettent notamment que les nations européennes ne mènent pas ensemble et en même temps les négociations sur le soutien de leurs avions avec Airbus Military. De même, le fait qu’aucun pot commun de pièces de rechange ne soit mis en place au niveau de l’Europe est vivement critiqué.
Affaire à suivre.Plus de détails sur ce rapport intitulé "A400M : tout simplement le meilleur" dans notre numéro 2320, à paraître le 6 juillet 2012.
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Re: Airbus A400M
par PierGil Ven 06 Juil 2012, 19:23
Pour ceux qui suivent, parfois, les retransmissions ( rediffusion la nuit ) de certaines commissions du Sénat français, il faut bien admettre que si certains sénateurs ne demandent qu'à se faire expliquer, d'autres ne sont plus du tout les "sages " dont il était question il y a quelques années.
La manière dont M. Lamy leur adressait le verbe il y a quelques semaines reflétait le grand écart entre les niveaux de compréhension.
N'est-ce pas un peu hypocrite de déclarer regretter que les "nations" ( c'est quoi ? ) ne mènent pas ensemble .... Il aurait fallu dire " auraient du mener..." car les avenants sont signés, sauf erreur de ma part. Et nombreux sont les militaires français qui ne croient absolument pas que le lot de 50 A400M pour l'AAF sera intégralement livré. On entend beaucoup ( pas du gouvernement français ) que les armées françaises pourraient être fortement dégraissées...
Pour faire la soudure, les derniers Casa 235 réceptionnés par la France ont quand même eu de gros soucis et il s'agit bien d'Airbus Military.
Les allemands ont dit qu'ils céderaient 13 de leurs A400M ( de toutes façons 60 étaient un peu farfelus )
Est-ce que l'Espagne prendra ses 27 avions ? Pas sûr...
Si les prospects en Asie et dans certains pays arabes n'aboutissent pas, Airbus ne s'en sortira pas.
Et que peuvent nous expliquer certains sénateurs sur les coûts de possession de cet A400M à l'heure du grand flou artistique sur les recettes et dépenses de la belle France dans les 5 ans qui viennent ?
Tout ça n'est pas un plaidoyer pour les Lockheed C-130, de mon point de vue, même si cet appareil est bien moins onéreux que l'A400M ( argument, entre autres, de certains officiers français il y a deux/ trois ans ).
Mais cela reste, toujours de mon point de vue, une affaire mal fichue.
Il allait pourtant bien penser et faire le remplaçant des C 160 et C-130H de l'AAF.
Mettre "hors de la dette" les dépenses militaires ( suivant les critères du traité de Maastricht ) peut aider des français qui n'ont pas compris les TUE/ EUT. Mais ça ne change pas grand chose sur l'addition finale
J'aimerais bien comprendre ce qui se passe vraiment dans et autour des moteurs car pour cela aussi les raccourcis vont bon train dans les média français.
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Re: Airbus A400M
par Owitzer Sam 07 Juil 2012, 09:22
Le problème sur le variable inlet guide vane (VIGV) avait été résolu par modification software, je crois.
J'avais cru comprendre que la solution était qualifiée de temporaire.
Les fissures de "fatigue" ont-elle disparues ?
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Re: Airbus A400M
par SEVRIEN Ven 31 Aoû 2012, 12:35
Je viens de voir, à l'instant, un A400M, à peine 120 pieds au-dessus de ma résidence dans le VAR, en approche d'atterrissage (simulé ?) à l'aéroport de TOULON-HYERES.
Il est grand, sans avoir l'air 'colossal', 'silencieux' (excellence de motorisation moderne .... oblige !), plutôt beau, avec son empennage "T-Tail" impressionnant.
Mistral / Tramontane fort(e); 90km/h à 100 km/h ; mais stabilité apparente de l'appareil, tout simplement remarquable.
Mais pas plus que celle du LM-C-130J, que j'ai vu l'autre jour, à une altitude de 100 pieds à peine ('silence' impressionnant, aussi) !
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Re: Airbus A400M
par SEVRIEN Ven 31 Aoû 2012, 12:57
Même altitude, ... mais virage plus serré (précision : vent arrière en sortie de virage ! ), avant "short final" ('réel ou simulé' ? ).
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Re: Airbus A400M
par SEVRIEN Ven 31 Aoû 2012, 15:42
Pour ma part, je l'ai vu (une 3ème fois) au-dessus du Golfe de Giens, train rentré, dans une attitude de décollage (contre le vent, donné à 90km/h à 100km/h).
Certains ont dit qu'il faisait ses "jumps" (un coup "touch & go" & un coup "no touch, but go"). No comment (impossibilité de tout voir, à partir de notre 'belvédère').
Mais l'aéroport de Toulon (à Hyères) doit toujours avoir son statut 'militaire', même si son activité principale est l'aviation civile. L'aéroport est, en raison de sa configuration, de l'approche etc., et des conditions climatiques -- et de vent-- qu'on y trouve, sans doute un excellent terrain et environnement pour certains travaux de préparation de la certification (civile d'abord, dans ce cas, et militaire ensuite, n'est-ce pas ? ).
On verra.
A suivre.
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Re: Airbus A400M
par AVRAY Sam 01 Sep 2012, 00:48
Une vidéo de début 2012
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Comme souligné par un de nos membres dans le topic KC-390, le ravitailleur doit être secoué sévèrement ( mais l'avion n'en est pas encore là, pourtant, il a bien une perche )
...En octobre 2011, les essais, à Hyéres, par vent de travers avaient, je crois, donné satisfaction
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Re: Airbus A400M
par SEVRIEN Sam 01 Sep 2012, 05:48
Merci.
Mais regardez ce qu'on apprend aujourd'hui (cette nuit) :
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August 31, 2012 9:15 pm
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Là, sans vouloir chercher à blâmer, .... il y a de quoi être fâché ! Franchement : il ne s'agit point d'un problème-moteur, ni d'un véritable problème de GB / "propeller Gearbox ( 'PGB' / Cearbox de l'hélice) ! Cela concerne une pièce, certes mécanique, mais banale, qui ne devrait jamais poser le moindre problème ! Je n'aime jamais spéculer, mais il doit y avoir un banal problème de qualité (matériau, montage pur et simple, "process" de fabrication et / ou de montage....., ... vibrations 'parasites') ; vibrations 'purement pyhsiques' ou sonores, .... donc, 'in fine' physiques / 'à conséquences physiques').Airbus on Friday announced [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien], saying delivery of the aircraft to its first customer would be pushed back from the first quarter of 2013 to the second quarter.
A spokesman for Airbus Military, part of the [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] group, said it was not clear yet whether the delay would result in financial penalties.
The A400M development programme has been the subject of significant cost overruns and delays in the past, which have hit Airbus’ earnings.
The latest A400M setback is focused on its engines. Metallic chips were found in the oil system of one of the engines on a test aircraft.
Airbus Military said the problem was caused by a crack on a cover plate inside the engine’s gearbox.
Europrop International, a consortium that is manufacturing the engines, is replacing this cover plate on several gearboxes.
The work means that civil certification of the A400M, and confirmation of its military initial operating capability, have been pushed into the first quarter of next year. This in turn means delivery of the initial aircraft to the French air force, the first customer, has been delayed until the second quarter.
Simon Henley, president of Europrop International, said: “We are working very hard to reduce the lead-time on these (cover plate) replacements to allow Airbus Military to resume the flight test as soon as possible.”
Les pénalités seraient, sans doute, appropriées, mais ne sauraient être que de niveau quasi-symbolique !
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Airbus Military is sticking to its target to deliver four A400Ms to customers next year, including three for the French air force.
Toute cette affaire est ridicule et inacceptable ! A suivre !
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Re: Airbus A400M
par SEVRIEN Sam 01 Sep 2012, 06:42
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First A400M delivery suffers fresh slip
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Nous nous en souvenons.Airbus Military has slipped its delivery schedule for Europe's first [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien] transport, with the French air force now expected to receive aircraft MSN7 during the second quarter of 2013. It had been contractually due to hand over the aircraft by 31 March 2013.
Engine supplier Europrop International (EPI) has identified the cause of a problem with a TP400-D6 turboprop which halted a vital programme of function and reliability (F&R) testing with development aircraft MSN6 shortly before July's Farnborough air show. Intended to accumulate data through 300h of intensive flight operations, the process was halted after 160 aircraft flight hours, due to the detection of metallic chips in the oil system of one engines.
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Oui."EPI's investigations have demonstrated that the failure does not impact the engines' full capabilities and that the chip detection was provoked by a crack of a cover plate," says Airbus Military, describing the component as "a mechanical piece isolating elements within the propeller gear box."
Bien sûr."The MSN6 engines as well as all series production engines have been sent back to EPI for replacement of this cover plate," the airframer says. Once approved by the European Aviation Safety Agency and installed, this will enable it to resume the F&R process.
"We are working very hard to reduce the lead-time on these replacements to allow Airbus Military to resume the flight test (programme) as soon as possible and continue the series production as planned," says EPI president Simon Henley.
Noté, ... et à noter.While the French air force's first aircraft will be delayed, its manufacturer says it remains on track to hand over a total of four A400Ms next year: three for France and a first example for Turkey. This will follow the type's expected receipt of full civil type certification and initial operating capability status in the first quarter of 2013.
Oui. Dossier à suivre, donc.Airbus Military says its fleet of "Grizzly" development aircraft has so far amassed more than 3,700h during almost 1,250 flights. This marks a roughly 300h increase since its most recent figures, released in mid-June.
The company has, meanwhile, yet to disclose when it expects to perform the first flight of aircraft MSN7 from Seville, Spain. A previously-planned target date of 23 August was dropped as a result of the TP400 engine issue.
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Re: Airbus A400M
par SEVRIEN Sam 01 Sep 2012, 13:23
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Qu'est-ce qu'on peut lire comme balivernes sur certains Forums d'ailleurs ! Quand des non-financiers, truffés d'arguments 'à idées reçues syndicales' (oui, ... syndicales; je n'ai aucune crainte de le dire, aucune honte à le dire), dans des eaux de management et d'investissement, par exemple, qui ne sont visiblement pas les leurs, ils sortent des âneries 'à go-go' !
Les raisons des problèmes et retards connus sur l'A400M n'ont rien à voir avec le manque de patience, par exemple, des investisseurs, qui pourraient souhaiter des bénéfices et des retours sur investisssement (avec "pay-back" rapide). Ceci est un projet militaire, et hautement politique (il n'y a qu'à se rappeler l'intervention ridicule, et le dire peut-être mal interprété, mais surtout mal exécuté de Jacques CHIRAC, qui ne comprenait pas ou n'anticipait pas la portée de ses propos sur la motorisation).
Mais, qu'il s'agisse de "l'airframe", ou du moteur, aucun des critères fondamentaux d'un invesstisseur direct normal n'a été respecté ! Ici, ce fut le foutoir total des choix, .... choix ni faits ni à faire ! Ce ne fut même pas un PPP ('Partenariat-Privé -Public') en pointillé ! Ce fut un désordre ineffable, causé par le 'trop de politique dans le cockpit' du tandem 'inénarrable Schröder -Chirac'.
Dans ce projet, sans aller dans le détail (c'est trop gênant !) il n'y avait rien d'entrepreneurial, selon les critères normaux d'une quelconque économie libérale, voyons, car l'allocation des travaux et des ressources nécessaires à ce projet, qui auraient dû être faite impérativement selon les compétences et expériences acquises, adaptées & disponibles, n'est jamais entrée en ligne de compte ! Ce fut le "work-share" / 'la répartition du travail' politique ! Politique !
Rien de normalement économique ! Rien ne fut basé sur un quelconque critère entrepreneurial de l'économie libérale !
Il ne faut pas que ces non-financiers précités soient trop écoutés ou lus ! Ils traitent ce projet A400M comme s'il s'agissait un projet d'aviation civile usuelle ! Quelle ânerie ! Ils sont à côté de la plaque ! Ils n'ont rien compris (évidemment, .... ils ne semblent pas être 'équipés' pour .... ).
Les retards, ennuis, déboires etc. de l'A400M sont dus entièrement aux retombées de la décision sotte, dictée par la pensée polluée par l'obsession (pas la partie constructive d'une pensée raisonnable ! ) avec le 'tout-tandem franco-allemand', ..... et l'aveuglement de certains responsables, qui pousse inéxorablement vers le 'trop de politique dans le cockpit' !
Louis GALLOIS manie bien la langue française, et l'image, ... quand il dit, notamment, que l'organisation d'EPI, et la réparation des travaux et des responsabilités était 'pluôt baroque, pour dire le moins ! Il est diplomate et poli !
Ce fut carrément le désordfre ineffable, .... le bazar, ... pour ne pas die autre chose de moins respectable (ou plus ; c'est selon ... ) !
Et il est important que ce 'trop de politique dans le cockpit' ne soit pas oublié !
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Re: Airbus A400M
par SEVRIEN Sam 01 Sep 2012, 23:42
Rappel, concernant le "gear-box" du TP400-D6 Information fournie sur le "PGB ("Propeller Gear Box ") d'Avio.
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Avio was selected as sole supplier of the propeller gearbox for theTP400-D6 engine, chosen to equip the A400M, the new European military transport aircraft. The propeller gearbox is one of the most complex module of the engine, demanding state-of-the-art technological requirements, especially in terms of weight and efficiency.
The TP400 propeller gearbox is the largest propeller gearbox ever developed in the western world. The A400M was designed according to requirements specifi ed by the Air Forces from the seven countries participating in the project (Germany, Belgium, Spain, France, Luxembourg, the United Kingdom and Turkey).
The aircraft, powered by four TP400-D6 turboprop engines, will cover tactical, logistical
and humanitarian transport missions, in line with the requirements of modern peacekeeping operations. The A400M is able to transport loads up to 37 tons (cargo version) or 120 fully equipped military personnel.
It is capable of covering a distance of about 3,550 nm with a 20-ton load, at a speed of 422 kn. The TP400-D6 is a three-shaft turboprop engine in the 10,000 s.h.p. class. Airbus Military SAS is handling the management of the A400M programme, while the engine is under Europrop International (EPI) responsibility, a European Consortium comprising Industria de Turbo Propulsores, MTU Aero Engines, Rolls-Royce and Snecma Moteurs.
The participating nations have ordered 180 aircraft, leadingto an engine delivery stream close to 750 units, including spares.
The first engine test successfully took place in 2005. The fi rst Type Certifi cate Standard (TCS) power gearbox was delivered in November 2006 and the Flight Test Bed (FTB) in December 2006.
The first engine (TCS) fl ight was carried out on 17 December 2008 on a Lockheed Martin C-130K FTB aircraft. The FTB activities covered the initial 53 fl ight hours by December 2009. The fi rst A400M fl ight took place in December 2009 at the Airbus Military Base in Seville,
Spain. Avio developed a second propeller gearbox standard named propeller gearbox standard TCS NEB (New Engine Baseline), which differs from the TCS for the introduction of the brake option, taking into account new load requirements. Currently, the Redesign Engine Mount System (REMS) propeller gearbox supersedes the TCS NEB configuration.
The new REMS PGB increased the structural capability of the Front Engine Mount System (FEMS) and will assess the impact on the PGB due to the revision of the engine oil system and air system.
The fi rst four PGB prototypes with the REMS standard, requested for bench test, were manufactured within July 2011. The first four flyable REMS PGBs, which equipped the fifth and last flight-testaircraft before production phase start-up, were delivered by theend of January 2012.
To date, more than 12,000 running hours have been achieved, around 8,000 of which have come from fi ve fl ying aircraft duringthe A400M fl ight test programme.
EPI has received type certifi cation from the European Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) for the TP400-D6 engine in TCS configuration (May 2011). The TP400-D6 is the first large turbopropengine to have been certifi ed by EASA and the fi rst military
engine to have been certifi ed by EASA to civil standards from the outset. Certification completes airworthiness approvals by EASA and is the result of an intensive series of safety, endurance and performance tests.
Main propeller gearbox characteristics
• power: around 8,000 kW
• output torque: around 100 kN*m
• gear ratio: around 9.5:1
• very high power density and efficiency
• reliability similar to “best-in-class” gearboxes for commercial
Turboprops
Architecture and technologies
Based on two reduction stages.
First-stage Off-Set design and second-stage planetary system.
The gearbox incorporates the best of our technologies, proven through:
• technology readiness programmes
• field experience on turboprop and helicopter gearboxes
Airbus Military décrit la "cover-plate'" de la manière suivante, en anglais : "a mechanical piece, isolating elements within the propeller gearbox".
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Re: Airbus A400M
par Jeannot Dim 02 Sep 2012, 23:53
Mais... les essais ne sont-ils âs faits pour découvrir ces petits "loups" ?Airbus Military reconfirms A400M production output for 2013
Airbus Military has today reconfirmed that it will deliver the first four new generation A400M airlifters to customers in 2013 as planned, following the development of solutions to the recent engine issue, which prevented the A400M from participating in the Farnborough Air Show flying display.
As communicated, we recently had an engine issue on MSN6, the first production representative development aircraft. After receiving the Restricted Type Certificate (RTC) from the European Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) last April, representing a big milestone and achievement in the programme, MSN6 started performing the 300 hour Function and Reliability (F&R) testing required for the award of the full Type Certificate (TC). Tests had to be suspended after 160 hours of F&R flying because of the repeated detection of metallic chips in the oil system of one of the engines.
Airbus Military has supported the engine manufacturer Europrop International (EPI) in its investigations of the root cause and fixes. EPI’s investigations have demonstrated that the failure does not impact the engines’ full capabilities and that the chip detection was provoked by a crack of a cover plate, a mechanical piece isolating elements within the Propeller Gear Box (PGB). As a responsibility of EPI, they have already made a new design available, which is currently in the validation process.
Consequently, the MSN6 engines as well as all series production engines have been sent back to EPI for replacement of this cover plate.he lead-time of the cover plate replacement in order to resume the F&R flying as soon as possible. F&R activity will be able to restart when MSN6 is fitted with the modified engines and upon agreement with EASA of a new F&R plan.
As a consequence, the civil Type Certification and military Initial Operating Capability (IOC) will now move into the first quarter of next year, followed by first delivery to the French Air Force (MSN7) in the second quarter of 2013. Despite this we maintain the overall delivery plan of four aircraft in 2013. There is a slight impact on the delivery of the second French aircraft (MSN8) while MSN9 (the first Turkish aircraft) and MSN10 (the third for France) will remain on schedule with delivery before the end of 2013. Other deliveries in 2014 and beyond continue as planned.
EPI President Simon Henley said: “We are working very hard to reduce the lead-time on these replacements to allow Airbus Military to resume the flight test as soon as possible and continue the series production as planned”.
Flight testing outside the F&R programme is progressing well, focusing primarily on military capabilities and systems, and the Grizzly development aircraft fleet has now completed more than 3,700 hours in nearly 1,250 flights.
Industrially, the first three customer aircraft are now in the final assembly process in Seville and a further ten aircraft are in various stages of production with long-lead items launched up to MSN23 and advancing according to plan.
About the A400M
The A400M is an all-new military airlifter designed to meet the needs of the world's Armed Forces in the 21st Century. Thanks to its most advanced technologies, it is able to fly higher, faster and further, while retaining high maneuverability, low speed, and short, soft and rough airfield capabilities. It combines both tactical and strategic/logistic missions. With its cargo hold specifically designed to carry the outsize equipment needed today for both military and humanitarian disaster relief missions, it can bring this material quickly and directly to where it is most needed. Conceived to be highly reliable, dependable, and with a great survivability, the multipurpose A400M can do more with less, implying smaller fleets and less investment from the operator. The A400M is the most cost efficient and versatile airlifter ever conceived and absolutely unique in its capabilities.
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Re: Airbus A400M
par SEVRIEN Lun 03 Sep 2012, 08:05
Oui, .... mais. Dans ce cas précis, ce genre de chose n'aurait pas dû se passer. L'affaire aurait dû être détecté et réglé auparavant, en amont.Jeannot a écrit:Mais... les essais ne sont-ils âs faits pour découvrir ces petits "loups" ?
Hélas, c'est le genre de problème qui se pose comme un des fruits du bazar d'organisation (que Louis GALLOIS lui-même a traité d'organisation 'baroque', quand il en a pris connassance quand il en a 'hérité), causé par le 'trop de politique sans le cockpit'. Nous n'allons pas donner dans l'hyperbole et es commentaires puériles qu'on peut lire ici et là.
Mais nous maintenons notre irritation devant l'organisation, tant du projet A400M que du motoriste EPI, selon une approche privilégiant la répartition politique du travail ("political work-share") au lieu ce celle basée principalement sur les compéténce et expérience industrielles et techniques adaptées !
Jeannot a écrit:Voici le communiqué officiel d'Airbus Military sur le sujet
Airbus Military reconfirms A400M production output for 2013
La pièce "cover-plate" est une pièce banale, certes avec une fonction importante. Cet incident est irritant et regrettable, mais bien moins grave que celui qui a touché le GE90 des premiers B777-200, notamment chez BA, client de lancement de ce moteur. Après la détection des traces de métal apparemment similaires, BA avait été obligé d'interrompre, pendant plusieurs semaines / mois, l'exploitation de ses B777-200 dans les opérations ETOPS !Airbus Military has today reconfirmed that it will deliver the first four new generation A400M airlifters to customers in 2013 as planned, following the development of solutions to the recent engine issue, which prevented the A400M from participating in the Farnborough Air Show flying display.
As communicated, we recently had an engine issue on MSN6, the first production representative development aircraft. After receiving the Restricted Type Certificate (RTC) from the European Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) last April, representing a big milestone and achievement in the programme, MSN6 started performing the 300 hour Function and Reliability (F&R) testing required for the award of the full Type Certificate (TC). Tests had to be suspended after 160 hours of F&R flying because of the repeated detection of metallic chips in the oil system of one of the engines.
Heureusement, il ne s'agit surement pas d'un défaut fondamental de conception "design", même s'il devait d'avérer nécessaire de faire un "design tweak", pour aider à assurer les robustesse et fiabilité du produit fini ("cover-plate") en question, issu de la combinaison 'matériau et "process" de fabrication / réalisation'. Car cela semble être plus un problème de qualité dans la réalisation qu'autre chose.
Heureusement ! Car ce sont les acteurs d'Airbus Military, qui, à l'époque du positionnement de cette division chez EADS, et de son organisation, avait accepté sans réagir l'organisation avec 'trop de politique dans le cockpit' , tant au niveau du projet A400M, et de la Cie. de motorisation correspondante, EPI !Airbus Military has supported the engine manufacturer Europrop International (EPI) in its investigations of the root cause and fixes.
Voir remarques ci-dessus. Cette pièce est déjà en train d'être fabrisuée en série, est c'est le "ramp-up" qui est déjà la priorité.EPI’s investigations have demonstrated (Sevrien : mot très important ; le plus important dans ce contexte ; rien à voir avec la gravité du problème du GE90, ci-dessus, quand il s'agissait de copeaux de métal du moteur -- pièces 'clé' mouvantes du TGB -- et / ou du moteur -- lui-même dans son articulation avec le moteur, cocktail qui a nécessité "re-design" et renfort) that the failure does not impact the engines’ full capabilities and that the chip detection was provoked by a crack of a cover plate, a mechanical piece isolating elements within the Propeller Gear Box (PGB). As a responsibility of EPI, they have already made a new design available, which is currently in the validation process.
Il n'y a pas de quoi fouetter un chat, ... mais c'est irritant !Consequently, the MSN6 engines as well as all series production engines have been sent back to EPI for replacement of this cover plate. (Sevrien : rectification d'un coquille dans le texte d'origine d'Airbus : "And focus xill be on the reduction of t")he lead-time of the cover plate replacement in order to resume the F&R flying as soon as possible. F&R activity will be able to restart when MSN6 is fitted with the modified engines and upon agreement with EASA of a new F&R plan.
As a consequence, the civil Type Certification and military Initial Operating Capability (IOC) will now move into the first quarter of next year, followed by first delivery to the French Air Force (MSN7) in the second quarter of 2013. Despite this we maintain the overall delivery plan of four aircraft in 2013. There is a slight impact on the delivery of the second French aircraft (MSN8) while MSN9 (the first Turkish aircraft) and MSN10 (the third for France) will remain on schedule with delivery before the end of 2013. Other deliveries in 2014 and beyond continue as planned.
EPI President Simon Henley said: “We are working very hard to reduce the lead-time on these replacements to allow Airbus Military to resume the flight test as soon as possible and continue the series production as planned”.
Flight testing outside the F&R programme is progressing well, focusing primarily on military capabilities and systems, and the Grizzly development aircraft fleet has now completed more than 3,700 hours in nearly 1,250 flights.
Industrially, the first three customer aircraft are now in the final assembly process in Seville and a further ten aircraft are in various stages of production with long-lead items launched up to MSN23 and advancing according to plan.
About the A400M
The A400M is an all-new military airlifter designed to meet the needs of the world's Armed Forces in the 21st Century. Thanks to its most advanced technologies, it is able to fly higher, faster and further, while retaining high maneuverability, low speed, and short, soft and rough airfield capabilities. It combines both tactical and strategic/logistic missions. With its cargo hold specifically designed to carry the outsize equipment needed today for both military and humanitarian disaster relief missions, it can bring this material quickly and directly to where it is most needed. Conceived to be highly reliable, dependable, and with a great survivability, the multipurpose A400M can do more with less, implying smaller fleets and less investment from the operator. The A400M is the most cost efficient and versatile airlifter ever conceived and absolutely unique in its capabilities.
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Re: Airbus A400M
par SEVRIEN Lun 03 Sep 2012, 23:05
J'ai lu que l'un des [Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir cette image] , ..... vous le connaissez, ...... l'As des Bureux de Brevets, qui, selon ses habitudes, cherchent à faire du "blame game" sur le dossier A400M ! Il cherche à mettre RR dans le coup.
Dans ses stupidité et courte vue, il n'a toujours pas compris le rôle de RR (ou celui de Safran-SNECMA) dans l'imbroglio qu'est EPI ! RR n'y aest pour rien, ... sauf à avoir à faire de la coordination du nettoyage des bêtises faites par les divers acteurs d'EPI ! Ici, le problème est bel et bien chez Avio, hélas !
La réfection du "cover plate" est bien la responsabilité contractuelle et réelle d'Avio, ... même si c'est EPI (représntée par une personne physique de RR, sans doute) qui doit assumer la responsabilité juridique et contractuelle au sommet !
Au niveau fondamental, RR n'y est pour rien ! SNECMA non plus !
Le moteur TP400-D6 , en tant qu'instrument de propulsion, ne pose aucun problème ! Au contraire, .... il a fait bien mieux que les spécifications du cahier des charges !
Ce n'est pas un "power-palnt" exposé aux types de problèmes bien connus, par exemple, en équivalence, sur les GE CF6 ou GE90 !
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Re: Airbus A400M
par Jeannot Ven 19 Oct 2012, 09:58
Petit à petitA400M simulates refuelling from C-160 Transall
Airbus Military has successfully performed simulated air-to-air refuelling (AAR) of the new generation A400M airlifter from a C-160 Transall tanker of the French Air Force. The two aircraft conducted 20 "dry contacts", in which no fuel is passed, including one lasting 12 minutes - representative of a normal refuelling operation. It is expected that "wet contacts" will take place in the first quarter of next year. The A400M has now successfully performed refuelling contacts with a VC10 of the Royal Air Force, the C-160, and an Airbus Military A330 MRTT new generation tanker/transport. The photo above shows the A400M refuelling from the C-160 in the latest trials
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Re: Airbus A400M
par Jeannot Lun 10 Déc 2012, 21:59
A400M completes critical flight-test phase
On track for full certification and first delivery.
Airbus Military has successfully completed the 300 hours of Function & Reliability (F&R) flight-testing of the A400M new generation airlifter which is a key requirement prior to full certification.
Data from the F&R programme, which was performed entirely using the first production-representative aircraft – MSN6 / Grizzly 5 – is now being examined by the civil and military certification authorities for the A400M – respectively EASA and a committee appointed by OCCAR.
Having received the restricted Type Certification begin May this year, this phase of the flight test programme was the last major requirement prior to full Type Certification. It is expected that the aircraft will receive the full civil Type Certificate and military Initial Operating Capability in the first quarter of next year subject to the approval of the relevant authorities. First delivery to the French Air Force, of MSN7, is planned for the second quarter, and a total of four aircraft will be delivered during the year in line with the schedule.
The F&R testing was completed in just 32 days, during which the aircraft made 52 flights and visited 10 different airfields. The exercise is intended to examine the aircraft´s behavior in conditions representative of normal in-service experience, including both routine and simulated abnormal operations in a wide range of weather and locations. It helps minimize the risk to operational crews, particularly on new aircraft entering service, of malfunctions and failures that increase pilot workload.
This intensive testing demonstrated the excellent reliability of the A400M and its systems as well as its TP400 engines even under an exceptionally demanding schedule.
Airbus Military Head of Flight and Integration Tests Fernando Alonso said: “During this F&R campaign the A400M has really been put through its paces. It has flown an average of two flights and 15 flight hours per day over a 26 day timeframe with only 6 days devoted to routine maintenance activities.The crews have been greatly impressed with the performance of the on-board systems and engines, and we are confident that we have a sound basis for completing the civil and military certification in the next couple of months.”
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Re: Airbus A400M
par Jeannot Mar 15 Jan 2013, 15:10
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First production Airbus Military A400M in French Air Force colours
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The first production A400M 21st century airlifter can be seen for the first time in the colours of an Air Force in this latest picture of the aircraft in the Airbus Military final assembly line (FAL) at Seville, Spain. The photograph shows MSN7 in the colours of the French Air Force, thus passing another milestone in the A400M programme towards first delivery, scheduled for the second quarter of this year.
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Re: Airbus A400M
par ANTHELME Jeu 07 Mar 2013, 22:06
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Experimental Test Pilot Hugues Van Der Stichel, who captained the flight, said after landing:
“The performance of the aircraft was as expected and we had a very smooth flight, confirming the great handling capabilities of the aircraft. The result of this first flight gives us full confidence for the on-time delivery to the French Air Force”.
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