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par SEVRIEN Jeu 20 Oct 2011, 09:57
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Oh ! Il convient d'ajouter un mot sur les AD, qui ont frappé le RR Trent 900. Sauf erreur ou omission de ma part, tous ont été 'levés'.
Principalement, il ne s'agissait que d'un AD de modification. Il n'y a eu aucun AD concernant le "re-design" fondamental du moteur.
L'accusation futile et immature de Monsieur JOYCE, selon laquelle il y aurait eu un "fundamental design flaw" dans le RR Trent 900, fut totalement rejetée, à juste titre.
Il reste, peut-être, un AD d'Inspection. L'AD du régime draconien d'inspections fut levé il y a de longs mois (1er trimestre 2011 ? ). S'il y a un rappel de la nature des inspections "normales", ceci est pour le bénéfice des opérateurs (Cies. aériennes) qui sont les seuls responsables en 1ère ligne du respect de ces inspections.
Bien sûr, les opérateurs peuvent déléguer la tâche desdites inspections aux acteurs reconnus en MRO et aux OEM (par exemple, à RR, dans le cadre des accords TotalCare). Mais, vis-à-vis des Autorités de Tutelle, le responsable demeure l'Opérateur sur le plan de l'Administration des affaires de la sécurité aérienne et de l'aviation des pays et des acteurs de ces derniers.
L'articulation entre l'Opérateur et le prestataire qui effectue concrètement les inspections, est une affaire privée, avec les obligations et droits d'usage des parties concernées.
Mais, devant les Autorités, l'opérateur (Qantas dans ce cas) ne saurait même pas essayer de se cacher derrière son petit doigt en évoquant la délégation de la tâche par externalisation ("outsourcing").
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par SEVRIEN Sam 29 Oct 2011, 19:05
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La Direction de Qantas condamne toute la flotte de Qantas au sol.
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Qantas suspends operations after locking out striking employees
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"No Comment", si ce n'est que cette action est destinée à assurer une intervention du Gouvernement australien, doté de "emergency powers", paraît-il, qui permettent d'exiger la fin de la grêve, le retour au travail, et un genre d'arbitrage ("arbitration") entre les parties, assuré par un 'arbitrre indépendant' / " independent , ... dont les recommandations peuvent, en théorie, être imposées et mise en application par les parties, "sous la contrainte" et sans choix !Australian flag carrier Qantas Airways has grounded all aircraft and suspended its domestic and international operations indefinitely, dramatically upping the stakes in its ongoing battle with three workers' unions.
The airline reached this decision after deciding to lock out all employees covered by the agreements being negotiated with the Australian Licenced Engineers Union (ALAEA), the Transport Workers Union (TWU) and the Australian and International Pilots Union (AIPA) from 18:00h Sydney time on Monday.
This comes after several weeks of occasional industrial action by members of the three unions, which has resulted in flight cancellations and disruptions that have cost Qantas Australian dollar (A$) 68 million so far. The airline added that it is losing A$15 million in revenue due to the industrial action.
The Oneworld carrier said that even though the lockdown would come into effect on Monday, the "tense environment" that means that "individual reactions to this lock-out decision may be unpredictable", and that led to the decision to ground all aircraft worldwide.
This would affect only the Qantas international and domestic fleet, it said. Aircraft currently in the air would complete their flights and remain grounded until the impasse is over.
Operations by Qantas' low-cost subsidiary Jetstar will not be affected, and the other members of the Group like QantasLink, JetConnect, Express Freighters Australia and Atlas Freighters will continue flying.
"This is a crisis for Qantas," said its CEO Alan Joyce in a statement. "If this action continues as the unions have promised, we will have no choice but to close down Qantas part by part."
Meanwhile, rival carrier Virgin Australia could add domestic capacity and work with international partners to help fill the gap left by Qantas' grounding.
"With this industrial action that has been going on in the last week, we have announced an additional 40,000 seats in the market over the next number of weeks and months," said a spokeswoman.
"We are obviously now working with all our alliances including Singapore Airlines, Etihad Airlines, Air New Zealand and Delta to see if we can get any extra planes, any extra capacity into the domestic market and also obviously helping those people stranded internationally and abroad."
Joyce pointed out that Virgin Australia is the "main beneficiary" of the grounding. "The great irony is that it [Virgin Australia] pays less, is less unionised and does its heavy maintenance offshore. Yet there is no union pressure on Virgin," said Joyce.
Qantas Airways management believes it had no choice but to initiate the suspension in order to force the unions to "forge sensible deals" with the airline.
"The unions' industrial campaigns are designed to scare away customers. It has become impossible for Qantas to serve our third-party maintenance clients. They are trashing our strategy and our brand. They are deliberately destabilising the company. And there is no end in sight," said Joyce.
The unions, added Joyce, were not just striking over pay but also "trying to dictate how we run our business".
"These are impossible demands. We cannot agree to them because they could ultimately put the Qantas Group at risk," said Joyce. "These unions are running utterly destructive industrial campaigns against Qantas and our customers, hurting all our employees and undermining Australian business."
It added that bookings on the highly lucrative East coast routes are down 25% year on year, and bookings on the loss-making Qantas international business are 10% lower than expectations. Its internal customer research shows there is an "alarming increase in people who intend not to fly" with the airline - up from a "normal" 5% to 20% domestically and almost 30% internationally.
"This course of action has been forced upon us by the extreme and damaging course chosen by the leaders of three unions. It is now over to them. The ball is in their court."
Il serait étonnant que le Gouvernement australien, ... l'Australie permette que Qantas, 'compagnie nationale', disparaisse tout simplement !
A suivre !
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Competitor steps in to take up Qantas slack
SYDNEY, Oct 30, 2011 (AFP)
La Direction de Qantas pourrait regretter cette décision de "grounding" de toute la flotte de la Cie. :|Virgin Australia is boosting passenger capacity and enlisting the help of its airline partners to carry people stranded by the extraordinary grounding of Qantas's fleet, it said Sunday.
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par SEVRIEN Dim 30 Oct 2011, 08:56
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Australia PM under pressure over Qantas
SYDNEY, Oct 30, 2011 (AFP)
Triste affaire !Embattled Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard was Sunday under growing political pressure over the economically damaging grounding of her country's national airline, Qantas. © 2011 AFP
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Grounding takes gloss off Qantas brand
PERTH, Australia, Oct 30, 2011 (AFP)
Hélas, ceci est vrai.Qantas's shock decision to ground its fleet of planes is a calculated gamble that risks trashing not only the "Flying Kangaroo" brand but that of Australian tourism generally, experts say.
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par SEVRIEN Dim 30 Oct 2011, 12:10
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Court hearings continue as Qantas fleet remains grounded
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Wait & see.Australia's industrial court has begun a hearing into the dispute between Qantas Airways and its unions, with the government hoping for a quick resolution to the impasse that led to the airline grounding its aircraft and suspending all operations indefinitely on Saturday.
On Saturday, Canberra asked Fair Work Australia to look into the dispute between Qantas and the Australian Licenced Engineers Union (ALAEA), the Transport Workers Union (TWU) and the Australian and International Pilots Union (AIPA).
The hearings began that night and ended without resolution, and resumed on Sunday. Fair Work Australia has the legal mandate to end an industrial dispute if that causes "significant damage to the economy", according to its website.
Qantas CEO Alan Joyce, however, told Australian media on Sunday that only an order terminating the strikes will guarantee the resumption of services. A suspension, he added, did not give the airline "certainty".
Flights could resume six hours after it gets approval from the Australian regulators, he said.
Il semblerait que le premier vol, après la reprise possible, ne puisse pas avoir lieu avant le lundi, 31 octobre, 2011, à 01h00 GMT au plus tôt.The airline said that since the grounding at 17:00h Sydney time on Saturday, over 68,000 passengers have been affected and 447 flights were cancelled.
Operations by Qantas' low-cost subsidiary Jetstar have not been affected, and the other members of the Group like QantasLink, JetConnect, Express Freighters Australia and Atlas Freighters have continued services.
Jetstar, along with other Australian carriers such as Virgin Australia and its partner Skywest, have announced plans to increase services on certain routes to help stranded Qantas passengers.
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par SEVRIEN Dim 30 Oct 2011, 12:54
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Qantas: tous les avions cloués au sol jusqu'à lundi 01H00 GMT au moins
SYDNEY, 30 oct 2011 (AFP)
La compagnie aérienne australienne Qantas a annoncé dimanche que tous ses avions resteraient cloués au sol jusqu'à lundi midi heure locale (01H00 GMT) au moins, en raison du conflit social qui affecte son activité depuis des semaines.
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Re: Qantas : QF : QFA
par SEVRIEN Dim 30 Oct 2011, 17:56
Il faudra, sans doute, que beaucoup de Français, qui suivent le dossier Qantas, changent de lunettes, pour voir 'correctement' et comprendre. Ce n'est pas une question d'intelligence ou de manque d'intelligence. C'est une question de culture, et de 'câblage culturel'.
Le "Fair Work Australia" (FWA) est un Tribunal Indépendant (totalement indépendant du Gouvernement , de la Politique, et du Système de Justice habituel). Ici, conformément à son rôle, et à ses statuts, FWA s'est penché sur la question, à la demande du Gouvernement "GILLARD".
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Il s'agit d'un Tribunal, dont les jugements (dans ces "Labour Disputes" / 'Disputes de Travail' entre le "Management" et les Syndicats") sont immédiatement exécutoires dans toutes leurs facettes.Australia's industrial court has begun a hearing into the dispute between Qantas Airways and its unions, with the government hoping for a quick resolution to the impasse that led to the airline grounding its aircraft and suspending all operations indefinitely on Saturday.
On Saturday, Canberra asked Fair Work Australia to look into the dispute between Qantas and the Australian Licenced Engineers Union (ALAEA), the Transport Workers Union (TWU) and the Australian and International Pilots Union (AIPA).
The hearings began that night and ended without resolution, and resumed on Sunday. Fair Work Australia has the legal mandate to end an industrial dispute if that causes "significant damage to the economy", according to its website.
Qantas CEO Alan Joyce, however, told Australian media on Sunday that only an order terminating the strikes will guarantee the resumption of services. A suspension, he added, did not give the airline "certainty".
Il n'y a pas d'appel possible des parties (ni de l'une, ni de l'autre), et, par exemple, Le Tribunal peut exiger que, dans le cas de la présente situation entre les Syndicats et le "Management", la suspension immédiate (immédiate !) de la grève décidée par lesdits Syndicats, et du "lock-out" décidé par le "Management", et la reprise du travail immédiate (le matin du Lundi, 31 octobre, 2011), et ce pour une durée de 21 jours, avant de faire le point, et de voir ensemble prochaine étape , qui n'exclut ni le retour au travail définitif (dans les conditions appropriées) ni le recommencement de la grève).
Mais, ce Tribunal peut être encore plus autoritaire, et imposer des conditions encore plus sévères.
Eh bien, .... la décision vient de tomber ! Il faut arrêter le "lock-out" et la grève !
Certains diront, "Quelle gifle pour le Management" ! D'autres diront, "Quelle gifle pour les Syndicats" !
C'est plus compliquée. En réalité,...... le "Management" a, peut-être, joué finement, en ayant bien prévu ce résultat, ce jugement destiné :
- à remettre les avions de Qantas en vol au plus tôt (il ne sera pas possible de restaurer tous les vols demain, mais dès que possible.... pendant les jours qui viennent),
- et à obligér les parties à se soumettre tout de suite à une 'procédure d'arbitrage engageant' / "binding arbitration procedure", où le jugement arbitral du Tribunal d'Arbitrage ne saurait absolument être contesté, et devra être implémenté immediatement !
En réalité, ..... il ne s'agit pas d'un jugement arbitral, mais d'un jugement 'résolutoire', applicable immédiatement, et, je le répète, sans aucun droit d'appel !
Il 'résoud le conflit', et impose cette solution dans une perspective contractuelle entre les parties, sans dispute ni grève entre elles , et, bien entendu, sans "grounding des avions de Qantas" !
Les Syndicats ne seront pas contents, c'est vrai ! Mais, en face, il y aura beaucoup d'Australiens qui considèrent déjà que le "grounding" de toute la flotte de Qantas a déjà infligé une perte d'image aggravée à la Cie. Qantas, image déjà bien ternie pendant ces 12 à 18 derniers mois , en raison de beaucoup d'incidents, de diverses natures, frappant les passagers, le "Management" et les 'opérationnels' de la Cie.
Le "Management" aura réussi à imposer une reprise du travail. Les Syndicats concernés auront réussi à amener le "Management" à la table de négociation !
Mais aucune des parties ne pourra faire appel contre la décision "binding" / 'engageante' du Tribunal d'Arbitrage. Nous répétons ; le jugement final sera immédiatement exécutoire. :|
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par SEVRIEN Dim 30 Oct 2011, 18:05
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Qantas: l'instance d'arbitrage ordonne la fin du conflit, reprise prochaine des vols
SYDNEY, 30 oct 2011 (AFP)
Les vols de la compagnie australienne Qantas devraient reprendre lundi après la décision d'une instance d'arbitrage d'ordonner l'arrêt du conflit social qui a affecté dimanche près de 70.000 passagers privés de vols.
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par SEVRIEN Dim 30 Oct 2011, 23:58
Qantas reprendra ses vols à partir de 03h00, le lundi, 31 octobre, 2011, à 03h00 GMT !
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Qantas to fly limited schedule from 0300 GMT
SYDNEY, Oct 31, 2011 (AFP)
Maintenant, pour l'avenir ! Ce sera vraiment une question de "wait & see" ! La Cie. Qantas, ... bien blessée, va devoir déterminer ses "future shape & size" !Australia's embattled national carrier Qantas will start flying again on Monday afternoon after an unprecedented 44-hour grounding, chief executive Alan Joyce said.
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Il lui faudrea un vrai partenaire, ou "groupe de partenaires" en appui. Et il serait, sans doute, préférable que l'Equipe de Direction (Alan JOYCE & Co.) soit remplacée, .... assez rapidement.
A voir ! :|
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par SEVRIEN Lun 31 Oct 2011, 00:10
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FWA orders Qantas to resume flights
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52 minutes ago : 31 10 /2011.
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Dans les circonstances, nous avons cherché à rendre nos écrits, ci-dessus, les plus factuels possibles ! :|Government body Fair Work Australia has ordered an end to all industrial action affecting Qantas, which should pave the way for the carrier to resume flights.
The tribunal made the decision after a marathon 15-hour session, ruling that both the airline and the unions in dispute with it needed to bring their actions to an end.
This means that Qantas' will be forced to resume flying again and the three trade unions - the Transport Workers Union, the Australian Licensed Aircraft Engineers Association, and the Australian and International Pilots Association - must stop their strike action.
FWA said that it was acting to prevent "significant damage" to the tourism and aviation industries.
CEO Alan Joyce was quoted in the Australian press indicating that operations should restart at 14.00 local, returning to a full schedule on 31 October.
The airline grounded its fleet at 17.00 local on 29 October in protest at on-going industrial action. Since that time the carrier said it has cancelled 447 flights, affecting 68,000 passengers.
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par SEVRIEN Lun 31 Oct 2011, 08:11
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Australian PM slams 'extreme' Qantas shut down
SYDNEY, Oct 31, 2011 (AFP)
Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard expressed fury Monday at Qantas Airways' "extreme" decision to ground its fleet and bluntly warned the airline to "get this sorted".
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Il faut se demander comment les Actionnaires vont contempler l'avenir et le devenir de l'Equipe de Direction / le "Management".
On ne gère pas un "legacy carrier" comme on gère une LCC. Même si lesdits "Legacy Carriers" doivent s'organiser afin de mieux assumer et d'assurer leurs reponsabilités et actions dans une approche concurrentielle. Beaucoup de ces Cies; "legacy" ont trop attendu, avant de réagir constructivement devant l'implantation des LCC, qui, nécessairement, vont faire partie du paysage du transport aérien.
C'est le cas visible , voire criard, chez AF !
Pour ce qui est de Qantas, Alan JOYCE se donne bien trop en spectacle pour le goût des Australiens, et les partenaires de Qantas.
Il a eu tout faux sur le dossier RR / Qantas, dans le contexte du regrettable incident du RR Trent 900 sur l'A380.
Il n'a pas su gérer ses Accords TotalCare avec RR.
Indépendamment de l'affaire précitée, c'est surtout sous sa tutelle que les incidents ont commencé à se multiplier.
Il n'a pas cherché à obtenir l'adhésion des personnels, pour l'adoption de son programme de restructuration.
A plusieurs titres, les Australians, qui aiment et veulent être fiers de la Cie. Qantas, la trouvent dévaluée, à leurs yeux.
Alan JOYCE est considéré avoir "bet the farm" ('parié la maison') dans son action combinée de "lock-out" et de "grounding" ('condamnation au sol') de tous les avions de la flotte Qantas. C'est tout le CA ("Board lof Directors") qui est associé à cette décision de 'mesure extrême'.
Le feed-back qu'on reçoit (il faut étudier les réactions dans les media autres que français, et éviter la tentation de comparer les comportements des personnels de Qantas avec ceux d'Air France ; et on remarque qu'on parle d'AF, qu'on 'diffuse sur' AF.... et non pas AF-KLM dans cette affaire), ..... est très négatif à l'égard d'Alan JOYCE, même s'il a ses supporters.
Affaire à suivre.
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par SEVRIEN Lun 31 Oct 2011, 08:34
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Qantas resumes service after 2 day grounding
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2 hours ago : 31 / 10 /2011.
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Oui.Qantas Airways has re-commenced flights after grounding its fleet for almost two days.
QF 41, due for Jakarta, took off from the Sydney Airport at 15:41 local time, after approval from the Civil Aviation Safety Authority.
This is the first Qantas flight to resume service after the Australian industrial court ordered an end to all industrial action by the Australian Licensed Engineers Union (ALAEA), the Transport Workers Union (TWU), the Australian and International Pilots Union (AIPA) and Qantas.
Under the orders issued by Fair Work Australia (FWA), there will now be up to 21 days of negotiation between the parties.
Comme nous l'avons indiqué ci-dessus.No industrial action can take place during this period and if no agreement is reached, binding arbitration will take place under the control of Fair Work Australia.
Ils auraient mieux fait de se taire, .... de 'baisser tête et bosser' ! Il fait qu'ils fassent du vent ! Il y en a, ... de grosses machiens à vent sur la planète !The Australian flag carrier had said in an earlier statement that it will resume flights on a limited schedule by mid-afternoon today, and also focus on brining its schedule back to normal as quickly as possible.
Its domestic network will resume normal operations by tomorrow morning, said an airline spokeswoman.
While Qantas welcomed the tribunal's decision, the three unions involved issued statements condemning Qantas' actions and said they will assess the ramification of FWA's orders.
Ah, cette immaturité !
Cela est clair ! Mais ce n'est pas en jacassant bruyamment dans les media qu'ils vont bénéficier longtemps du peu de soutien qu'ils peuvent avoir en ce moment parmi le public et les clients !The FWA's order, seems "an unjust decision", said the ALAEA in a statement.
"We think we can fairly say that the outcome as it currently stands was not one that formed part of our plans but may be another hurdle we have to overcome to achieve our overall objective of saving Qantas and our profession from those who appear intent on destroying them," it added.
S'il veut être perçu positivement, il faut qu'il commence par fermer son clapet ! Ceux 'à l'extérieur' n'on t pas besoin de ses remarques 'inflammatoires' pour former leur avis ! Il est regrettables que ces chefs de Syndicats ne comprennent pas cettte simple vérité ! Et c'est partout pareil !Barry Jackson, president of the AIPA, meanwhile called Qantas' shut down "a gross over-reaction", and said that the union is hoping for a "positive outcome" from the 21 day negotiation period.
Leur communication est à revoir en profondeur !
The Oneworld member grounded all its domestic and international operations at 17:00 Sydney time on Saturday in protest of on-going industrial action. Over 447 flights were cancelled and 68,000 passengers affected.
The drastic grounding comes after several weeks of occasional industrial action by members of the three unions, which has resulted in flight cancellations and disruptions that have cost Qantas Australian dollar (A$) 68 million ($72 million) so far.
Oui. :|
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par SEVRIEN Lun 31 Oct 2011, 09:01
"Alan JOYCE : ennemi public no. 1" !
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Qantas chief now Australian 'public enemy number-one'
Sydney, Oct 31, 2011 (AFP)
Irish-born Qantas boss Alan Joyce has defied death threats and alienated the public and powerful alike with a shock grounding of the Qantas fleet that has won him few friends in Australia.
2011 AFP
Les menaces de mort sont inadmissibles. Les responsables seront, bien sûr (et c'est bien normal) recherchés, poursuivis, et, si attrapés, punis par la Justice. On peut légitimement l'espérer.
Mais, pour le reste, ... Alan JOYCE devra 'assumer' ! Peut-être ne devrait-il pas participer aux négociations. :|
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par Jeannot Lun 31 Oct 2011, 12:27
Handling The Big Jet: the human story of QF32
Last Friday Capt Richard Champion de Crespigny arrived at Qantas's London regional headquarters in Hammersmith to give the staff a personal account of the day in November 2010 when his Airbus A380 suffered a catastrophic engine failure.
I won't rehearse yet again the technical detail of this well-documented event, but I will quote de Crespigny's words to the Australian media early this year describing what happened when his No 2 engine was blown apart by an uncontained turbine disc failure: "The wing was cluster-bombed. The aircraft had phenomenal damage to all systems. But it didn't just recover, it performed brilliantly."
Sure, but the flightcrew had to deal with a badly damaged three-engined aircraft and an ECAM display continuously scrolling a total of more than 60 system failures that clamoured for attention.
This is a brief account of the human side of what happened.
It's true the A380 proved itself pretty robust, but de Crespigny and his crew managed the aircraft's performance and the passengers' wellbeing with considerable skill and judgement. Not every skipper would have achieved the outcome he did.
I was among the audience at the Qantas London office as de Crespigny gave his presentation to the Oz carrier's European HQ team. There were about 25 of them in the room, clearly all ready to be won, but de Crespigny brought them on board from the outset. Every Qantas employee had played their part with his crew that day, he told them, and he clearly meant it.
He reminded them that, among the 469 people on board the A380 that day, not a soul was harmed, and there have been no complaints from any of them since, despite the potential trauma of what they experienced, followed by the inevitable disruption to their planned journeys.
De Crespigny began his account unsensationally, describing the routine departure from Singapore for Sydney. Then, passing 7,000ft, the steady climb was interrupted by two very loud BANGS. The intermediate turbine disc had disintegrated at 8,000rpm, sending supersonic shrapnel slicing through the left wing, piercing a fuel tank and severing electrical and hydraulic runs.
From then on, he told us, the wing was effectively "dead", electrically and hydraulically.
He related how the accident investigators' subsequent projections had determined that, having sliced through the wing, one of three major disc fragments travelling at twice the speed of sound had missed the fuselage by 2cm.
Instantly he had told us about hearing the BANG, our briefing room was suddenly ringing with the adrenaline-charged chimes of the A380's Master Warning System, just like it had blasted the flight deck that day.
De Crespigny's calm commentary continued uninterrupted through the shrilling alarm, as if he alone was oblivious to it. We were willing it to stop.
In the aeroplane on the day: every time the crew cancelled the aural alert, new ECAM warnings re-started it.
In the Hammersmith briefing room de Crespigny suddenly cancelled the frantic chiming. It felt like it had been ringing for half an hour, but in fact it had been running less than a minute.
The audience had got the point. So you have to think straight with that going on? But how?
In the aircraft, de Crespigny's immediate reaction to the engine explosion was to command the autopilot to level the aircraft out. Simultaneously he set about assessing whether, despite whatever had happened, the aircraft was flying at a safe speed and altitude with enough power to sustain it. #
It was. The electrically isolated No 1 engine had gone autonomous and was running at a useful power setting. No 2 was dead. Nos 3 and 4 were running at different power settings, reacting to the automatic systems' "perception" of what was going on.
The crew themselves didn't know what was going on, but de Crespigny knew the aeroplane was still flyable. So far.
The copilot - Matt - immediately went heads down and began attending to the seemingly never-ending series of system failures. Checklist after checklist, working with de Crespigny and the three other pilots in the A380's augmented crew.
This continued for some time until de Crespigny realised so many systems and units had failed that normal procedures were no use, and might even be counter-productive.
There were no checklists for this stuff.
He realised, he told us, that instead of dealing with the failures, his crew had to determine what was still working, and just use it. "I remember saying, 'Matt, stop!'"
This flight carried an unusually large augmented crew, because a new line-check captain who was checking de Crespigny was himself being checked by a senior one. The result was that there was a spare voice to brief the cabin crew and passengers.
So as soon as it became apparent that the aircraft could be successfully controlled, one of the supernumerary pilots checked with de Crespigny, then used the cabin address system to reassure the crew and passengers that, despite the failure of an engine, the aircraft was perfectly safe, and they would return to Singapore as soon as the crew had carefully checked the aircraft and its systems. "I was, actually, confident that we were safe," de Crespigny told us.
That first cabin address took place about three minutes after the engine explosion. As a result, de Crespigny told us, for the rest of the flight "the mood in the cabin was very relaxed." He related how his cabin service director, Michael von Reth, handed over tactical operational control of the cabin to his deputy, and spent his time moving around the cabin talking to passengers.
It was about 45min, de Crespigny admits, before he himself got to speak on the cabin address. By that time the crew had worked out how long they had before the aircraft would be down to a safe landing weight, but would still have sufficient fuel in the leaking left wing to keep No 1 engine working and maintain the aircraft's balance. They had also assessed the landing performance with no working spoilers, no leading edge slats and limited roll control. Remarkably, they had manual control of all three working engines. They calculated they would stop with about 80m of the runway to go.
All they had to do now, while still at a safe height, was to carry out low speed handling checks to determine the parameters for a safe approach. So they did that.
De Crespigny's briefing to the cabin was not only reassuring to the passengers, it was strategic from Qantas' point of view. He advised the passengers that, once safely on the ground as they soon would be, they pretty quickly would be confronted by the media who would want to know what happened. He briefed the passengers on the essentials of what had happened to the aeroplane, as well as what was yet to come during the approach and landing they were about to begin. De Crespigny was also aware that, after landing, the passengers would naturally access the social media via their smart phones, if only to reassure their families.
The results of de Crespigny's foresight, once the passengers were safely in the terminal at Singapore, were priceless to the airline. As he pointed out to us: "The passengers became a team working for us. They were our evangelists."
The final approach to Singapore was tight work, because the airspeed margin between incipient stall and the speed above which they would overrun the runway was only a few knots. They got stall warnings at 600ft and 300ft, but on the whole it went well. The aircraft stopped within the runway distance about 1h 40min after the engine failure.
De Crespigny admits that the most difficult decisions had to be taken after the aircraft had come to a halt, surrounded by fire crews dousing the hot brakes and covering the growing pool of fuel beneath the leaking tank with foam. The No 1 engine was still running at high power and would not shut down because it was electrically isolated, and so were its fuel shut-offs. Also, the runway they had landed on was the central one of Singapore's three parallel strips, so there were active runways either side. So how to get the passengers safely out into this unfriendly environment, then safely away from it?
Eventually de Crespigny saw the entire complement of passengers and crew disembark into waiting buses via a set of steps at the forward starboard door.
De Crespigny was inevitably the lynchpin of the operation that day, but Qantas' crisis management team worked well. Back in the airport terminal at Singapore, de Crespigny and his crew stayed with the passengers, providing answers and ensuring support. But the support was there. None of the passengers had to fight for anything - accommodation, access to communications. Off duty employees all over Qantas' global network were reporting in to find out if they could do anything to help.
Right now, as I commit this story to the electronic ether, Qantas has been totally grounded as a management response to union strike threats. Be careful with your people, Qantas. A worldwide team of employees who can do this for you has taken generations to build.
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par SEVRIEN Lun 31 Oct 2011, 12:42
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Je crois reconnaître ce document.
Sauf erreur de ma part, je l'avais largement commenté (ce fut très long ! ), il y a de longs mois, me semble-t-il.
Il faudra que je recherche le(s) post(s), pour trouver les références.
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par DayAfter Lun 31 Oct 2011, 15:38
Ces affaires QF profitent actuellement à Virgin Australia.
Attention, les clients que l'on perd ( sauf "captifs" ) ne reviennent pas toujours.....
Et si AF, par exemple, avait un vrai concurrent, en France métropolitaine ?
L'info transmise par Monsieur Sevrien ne fait pas une ligne dans la presse française...
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par SEVRIEN Lun 31 Oct 2011, 17:03
Oui, Jeannot, j'ai trouvé le post. Merci.Jeannot a écrit:Vous avez effectivement commenté un document similaire mais celui estt récent et date de la semaine dernière. Les réactions du Commandant De Crespigny sont certainement un peu différentes aujourd'hui !
Ce qui semble important, ... c'est le fait qu'il s'agisse, ici, dans le texte de David LEARMOUNT, d'un article factuel, écrit par un Monsieur SAFETY, lui-même pilote, et ex-pilote d'essai, qui arrive à vulgariser tout comme le Commandant De Crespigny arrive à le faire.
Il apporte la dimension humaine, dans la 'vie' du cockpit, et les signes d'un énorme professionnalisme qui ne perd jamais le contact avec le bon sens et la capacité d'éviter les exagérations.
Même le 'dramatique' est raconté et décrit d'une manière presque feutrée, tant par David LEARMONT, que dans les éléments présentés (par citation) du Commandant de CRESPIGNY;
C'est un plaisir de lire ce genre d'article, sur un sujet pareil.
Je ne suis pas si sûr que les réactions du Command de CRESPIGNY soient 'différentes'. Il me semble que le contexte des 'interviews' / dialogues , et divers aspects traités, ne sont pas tous les mêmes, et sont abordés différemment.
David LEARMOUNT ne pose pas les sujets et les questions / problèmes, de manière 'chargée' ou 'orientée', comme le font les media à sensations.
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par SEVRIEN Lun 31 Oct 2011, 21:36
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Après avoir relu (maintenant) le post, qui commente la note du Blog de Will HORTON (Flight Global),
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"Rolls-Royce had early warning of Trent 900 manufacturing problems"
où l'on trouve le 'Gros Titre' écrit :
- "Investigative Journalism at its best" ( Sevrien : "rubbish title" / "drivel" ; "investigative journalism" : ... mon oeil ) !
A mes yeux, cette "relecture" confirme le post ci-dessus, en réponse à celui de deux lignes de Jeannot.
Dans les posts de la page 11, tout a été fait pour mettre en valeur les media , et les histores tordues, infondées, non ét non étayées et non étayables !
Rien n'a été fait pôur tirer la quintessence des contributioins potentielles du Commandant Richard Champion de CRESPIGNY ! Au contraire, ... on a l'impression qu'il avait invité pour faire de l'Audimat (lui n'est pas en cause , bien évidemment) !
Dans l'article de David LEARMOUNT, se dégage l'impression que nous avons un énorme privilège de pouvoir lire et apprécier la qualité , ... la classe de l'homme, du pilote, et de l'auteur !
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Merci, donc, à Jeannot de nous avoir offert le post !
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par SEVRIEN Lun 31 Oct 2011, 21:52
Oui, DayAfter ! Vous avez raison, ... et vos remarques et "rhetorical questions" mettent le doigt là où ça fait mal ! ;)DayAfter a écrit:Bonjour
Ces affaires QF profitent actuellement à Virgin Australia.
Attention, les clients que l'on perd ( sauf "captifs" ) ne reviennent pas toujours.....
Et si AF, par exemple, avait un vrai concurrent, en France métropolitaine ?
La douleur de la pertinence !
Merci, DayAfter ! Là, nous sommes parfaitement sur la même longueur d'onde ! Ceci réfléchit ce que vous avez surement compris avec une acuité certaine, les lignes d'iuverture de mon post du 30 /10 /2011, à 17h56 :L'info transmise par Monsieur Sevrien ne fait pas une ligne dans la presse française...
;)Sevrien a écrit: Il faudra, sans doute, que beaucoup de Français, qui suivent le dossier Qantas, changent de lunettes, pour voir 'correctement' et comprendre. Ce n'est pas une question d'intelligence ou de manque d'intelligence. C'est une question de culture, et de 'câblage culturel'.
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Qantas gets back to normal as fallout ramps up
SYDNEY, Nov 1, 2011 (AFP)
Qantas services began returning to normal Tuesday after days of chaos, as the airline began the task of winning back the hearts and minds of passengers and a furious government.
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Il y en a qui devraient réfléchir ! ;)
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Qantas shutdown casts pall on Australian economy
SYDNEY, Nov 1, 2011 (AFP)
The Qantas shutdown was a sobering reminder that Australia's entire economy -- from tourism to mining -- relies on the aviation industry to bridge the country's vast expanses, experts say.
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Il y en a qui devraient changer de lunettes "culturelles" !
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par SEVRIEN Mar 01 Nov 2011, 18:47
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Qantas: Alleged sabotage led to grounding decision
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Qantas 767-300. By Rob Finlayson
Soupçon de sabotage, ou de tentative de sabotage, apparemment. Fait nouveau pour nous ! C'est le genre de détail que, en effet, tous les acteurs préfèrent taire, quand, ostensiblement, le contexte est réputé être un 'simple' contexte de grève ("industrial action").Qantas (QF) confirmed to ATW that the Australian Federal Police (AFP) is investigating the alleged sabotage of one of its 265-seat Boeing 767s in Brisbane Oct. 26 while the aircraft was undergoing upgrade work.
Cela ne change pas tout ! Mais cela pourrait aller dans le sens d'atténuer la nature excessive de la décision de la Direction de condamner toute la flotte Qantas au sol !The airline is tight-lipped on the details but ATW understands that after engineers returned from a lunch break they noticed several wires were cut on an inflight entertainment system. Further investigation by the engineers revealed more severed wires had been covered up.
Mais, bien entendu, cette déclaration du porte-parole Qantas aurait tendance à être neutre, ou à pouvoir être considérée comme neutre, et, de cette façon, ne devrait pas venir justifier la nature grave & / ou extrême de la décision précitée de la Direction de Qantas.On Tuesday, a QF spokesperson declined to give further details other than to confirm the AFP were investigating the incident and insist that safety “was never at risk.”
Oh, oh !However, the risk of more serious sabotage apparently was the reason for the delay in QF getting its fleet back in the air Monday after Saturday’s unprecedented grounding, which left more than 70,000 passengers stranded.
Compte tenu de ceci, ..... la Direction de Qantas, ... a-t-elle 'surréagi' ou non, en condamnant au sol toute la flotte de Qantas ?After the incident, apparently Australia’s Civil Aviation Safety Authority insisted on a comprehensive sabotage risk mitigation strategy for QF with more thorough checks of all critical systems.
Oui.The airline has been engaged in a bitter 10-month dispute with three unions—the Australian Licensed Aircraft Engineers Assn., Australian and International Pilots Assn. and the Transport Workers Union—over new labor contracts, which culminated in QF grounding its fleet Saturday and appealing to Fair Work Australia (FWA) for a lockout of union members ([Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien]).
Quelles réactions peuvent avoir nos Forumistes à l'égard de cet 'article' ?According to sources, QF detailed concerns about the sabotage in its confidential submissions to FWA over the lockout. The submission, authored by the airline’s head of safety Susan D’Ath Weston, raised a number of risk scenarios, including flight crew distraction, intentional unsafe acts by flight crew, and intentional unsafe acts by ground crew and engineers that would be undiscoverable by flight crew.
Weston’s assessment concluded that grounding the fleet immediately after the lockout was announced Saturday substantially reduced the risk of sabotage.
As of Friday, QF said it lost A$68 million ($72 million) as a result of the union disputes.
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Qantas agrees to compensate stranded passengers
SYDNEY, Nov 2, 2011 (AFP)
C'est le moins que la Cie. puisse dire & / ou faire.Australian airline Qantas said Wednesday it would compensate passengers stranded by its sudden grounding of all flights over the weekend for "all reasonable losses".
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