RUMEURS de Commandes

Stowe_F a écrit:Suite EVA,

La Cie taiwanaise aurait pris 10 A 321

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Qui seraient donc livrés en fin 2012, soit des A 321 "classiques".

Motorisation ? :o

• Garuda serait sur le point de passer une commande ferme de 11 x Airbus A330-300 (eh oui, ... le bon vieux A330 ! ), à moteurs RR Trent (772-B-EP, sans doute), ...
  
• avions dont la livraison serait prévue entre 2013 & 2017.
  

JAKARTA/PARIS, April 10 (Reuters) - Garuda and European planemaker Airbus are close to a deal for the Indonesian airline to buy A330 passenger jets worth $2.5 billion at list prices, two sources familiar with the matter said on Tuesday.

The deal is set to be unveiled by British Prime Minister David Cameron on Wednesday at the start of a 24-hour visit to Indonesia aimed at boosting trade and investment.

"Garuda is buying 11 units of the A330-300 that will be delivered in a timeframe between 2013 and 2017," said one source close to the deal, asking not to be identified.

The new jets would increase the number of long-haul A330s already already delivered to Garuda or on order from the airline by two thirds and would be powered by UK-supplied Rolls-Royce engines.

None of the companies involved agreed to comment.

The A330-300 sells for $231 million at catalogue prices, but airlines typically pay less than the official price.

DJAKARTA/PARIS (Reuters) - Airbus est sur le point de conclure un accord avec la compagnie aérienne indonésienne Gadura portant sur l'achat d'A330 pour 2,5 milliards de dollars (1,9 milliard d'euros) au prix catalogue, ont dit mardi deux sources proches du dossier.

L'accord doit être dévoilé par le Premier ministre britannique, David Cameron, mercredi en préambule d'une visite de 24 heures en Indonésie.

"Garuda achète 11 exemplaires de l'A330-300 qui seront livrés durant la période 2013-2017", a dit l'une des sources.

Cette commande doit augmenter des deux tiers le nombre d'A330 livrés à Garuda ou en carnet. Les nouveaux appareils seront motorisés par le britannique Rolls-Royce.

Aucune des sociétés concernées n'a voulu commenter ces informations.

Au prix catalogue, l'A330-300 vaut 231 millions de dollars mais le prix payé par les compagnies aériennes est généralement inférieur.

Olivia Rondonuwu et Tim Hepher, Wilfrid Exbrayat pour le service français, édité par Marc Angrand

Qatar Airways se dote de cinq nouvelles Boeing 777

En sus de ses vingt cinq Boeing 777, Qatar Airways annonce la commande de trois Boeing 777 cargo et ce n’est pas tout! Celle-ci annonce aussi la commande deux 777-300 ER (extended range) . Le prix de ces derniers est estimé à concurrence de 1.4 MM USD. Une bonne affaire le 777-300 ER étant moins polluant et d’un coût d’exploitation 20% moins cher.

Jeannot a écrit:Qatar Airways se dote de cinq nouvelles Boeing 777

Qatar Airways se dote de cinq nouvelles Boeing 777

En sus de ses vingt cinq Boeing 777, Qatar Airways annonce la commande de trois Boeing 777 cargo et ce n’est pas tout! Celle-ci annonce aussi la commande deux 777-300 ER (extended range) . Le prix de ces derniers est estimé à concurrence de 1.4 MM USD. Une bonne affaire le 777-300 ER étant moins polluant et d’un coût d’exploitation 20% moins cher.

J'avoue que je medemande si nous ne les avons pas déjà vu passer ces oiseaux là.

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Garuda A330F Deal Still To Come

Airbus in the coming months could be celebrating another boost from Garuda Indonesia after the carrier’s latest A330 deal excluded three freighter derivatives the airline has previously said will be purchased for a dedicated cargo operation.

The airline’s cargo outfit is a wholly owned strategic business unit that has been using the belly-hold space on Garuda passenger aircraft, but the airline plans to supplement this by operating A330 freighters, President Director Emirsyah Satar told Aviation Week and other news media in Singapore earlier this week.

However, on April 11 during his visit to the island nation’s capital Jakarta, British Prime Minister David Cameron unveiled a follow-on order by Garuda for 11 new A330-300 passenger aircraft. These Rolls-Royce-powered aircraft, which Garuda CFO Elisa Lumbantoruan says will be delivered in 2013-2017, bring Garuda’s A330 backlog to 21 aircraft.

But according to Satar, A330 freighters are scheduled to enter service in 2013, noting that “the [first] freighter will be coming end of next year.” He did not clarify if these would be purchased or leased airframes, although Satar on April 9 told Aviation Week that the airline plans to increase its fleet to 194 in 2015 from 92 today and that to achieve that goal it will be turning any options it has for aircraft into firm orders.

Satar says the new freighters will operate from Indonesia to China, South Korea, Japan and Taiwan, markets that are currently served through Singapore.

Garuda operates mostly Boeing 737-800s domestically and uses its current fleet of 14 A330-200/300 Rolls-Royce-powered aircraft to serve destinations in north- and southeast Asia. Traditionally, foreign carriers such as Singapore Airlines, have tapped much of Indonesia’s international traffic, but under Satar’s leadership Garuda has been making a concerted effort to win back international market share.

Indonesia’s domestic passenger market grew 16% last year and Satar is predicting it will grow 16% this year. The country’s gross domestic product is forecast to grow about 6% in 2012, largely driven by rising domestic consumption and a commodities boom.

Cameron is currently doing a tour of Southeast Asia that will see him, and British businesspeople accompanying him, visiting Myanmar and Malaysia in addition to Indonesia.

DDtrace a écrit:Bonsoir

Garuda a donc choisit la version à 235 t de l'A330-300, propulsion Trent 700

Aménagement en deux classes pour les dessertes Asie, Moyen-Orient, Pacifique.

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Qatar Airways plans to place a large business-jet order with Bombardier "soon", the companies have said.

Qatar Executive, the carrier’s business-jet unit, already flies six Bombardier business jets, including three Global 5000 models and three Challenger 605s.

Qatar Airways CEO Akbar Al Baker declined to specify the size of the planned order at a speech on Thursday in Montreal.

Bombardier, which is developing the CSeries narrow-body jet to compete with the smallest commercial planes produced by Boeing and Airbus, said sales of its business jets increased 79 percent last year to 191.

The planemaker’s CEO, Pierre Beaudoin, declined to specify the size of Qatar’s order, which Al Baker said would be placed “soon.”

The third-largest Middle Eastern carrier, Qatar Air shelved plans to buy Montreal-based Bombardier’s CSeries narrow-body aircraft, Al Baker said last month, and will consider a purchase later. The jet has a lot of potential, Al Baker said at the time.

Qatar has delayed an initial public offering once planned for this year as a sovereign debt crisis in Europe sapped global growth.

The airline wants to raise cash as it expands the fleet to establish Doha as a long-haul hub connecting North America and Europe with high-growth economies in Asia.

United Continental Nears Deal With Boeing for Planes

United Continental Holdings Inc. will soon finalize a deal with Boeing Co for more than 100 of its 737 single-aisle jetliners, according to a person familiar with the matter.

If completed, the deal would mark a significant win for Boeing, which last year placed far behind its European rival Airbus in landing orders for small airliners.

Airbus won more than 1,000 orders for its A320 family of planes last year, while Boeing won roughly half that number. Airbus was very successful with a promised update of the A320, dubbed the Neo, for new engine option. The Neo's success prompted Boeing to abandon plans for an all-new successor to the 737 and instead update it. United will buy Boeing's updated 737 MAX model, according to the person familiar with the talks.

Officials at United and Airbus declined to comment.

The near completion of the talks was reported by Bloomberg News earlier Monday.

A deal with United would be notable in part because the airline currently flies both Boeing 737s and Airbus A320s, as a result of the merger in 2010 of United and Continental Airlines that created what is now the world's largest airline.

While the carrier could have gone with either manufacturer, industry officials had widely expected United to select Boeing planes, in part because the current management comes largely from Continental, which flew only Boeing planes. The Wall Street Journal reported in January that United was likely to select Boeing planes.

But a win was far from secure. Airbus, a unit of European Aeronautic Defence & Space Co., shocked Boeing last summer by landing a giant order for A320s from AMR Corp.'s American Airlines, which for years had bought only Boeing planes. AMR is now going through Chapter 11 bankruptcy reorganization, but executives have said the still plan to buy both Airbus A320s and Boeing 737s, as announced.

United Said to Talk Exclusively With Boeing on 200 Jets

United Continental Holdings Inc. is negotiating only with Boeing Co. for an order of about 200 narrow-body jets after dropping discussions with Airbus SAS (EAD), two people familiar with the matter said.

Talks had been under way for at least six months about a mix of current-generation Boeing 737s or Airbus A320s plus variants with new, more-efficient engines, said the people, who declined to be identified because details aren’t public.

A United deal would cement ties to a longtime customer and build on Boeing’s victory over Airbus in winning a 100-plane purchase from Delta Air Lines Inc. (DAL) in August. Airbus and Boeing, split a 460-jet order with AMR Corp. (AAMRQ)’s American Airlines in July. The list value for 200 737s would be about $16.9 billion, based on the $84.4 million retail price of the 737-800.

“If United goes with Boeing for this order we see this as a helpful market-share gain,” Robert Stallard, an RBC Capital Markets analyst in New York, said in a note to clients. He has an outperform rating on Boeing, which like United is based in Chicago.

Spokesmen for United, Boeing and Toulouse, France-based Airbus all declined to comment about the status of the latest negotiations.

Boeing slid 0.9 percent to $72.86 at the close in New York as U.S. stocks slumped, while United, the world’s largest airline, fell 0.3 percent to $22.85. Airbus parent European Aeronautic, Defence & Space Co. dropped 4.4 percent to 29.25 euros earlier in Paris.

Aircraft Options
Some of the planes in the 200-jet total may be options for future aircraft, said the people. The value of the order may rise once United settles on terms, because the 737-800 is less expensive than the so-called MAX model with upgraded engines. Airlines typically buy at a discount.

An all-Boeing order would also benefit CFM International, the General Electric Co (GE).-Safran SA (SAF) venture that makes the only engines used on the 737. CFM competes with United Technologies Corp. (UTX)’s Pratt & Whitney unit on the A320neo model.

The 737 is the world’s most widely flown airliner, and Boeing planes account for more than three-fourths of the main fleet of 701 jets at United Continental, which was formed in the 2010 merger between UAL Corp. and Continental Airlines Inc.

Continental had an exclusive relationship with Boeing dating back two decades. The new United is run by Jeff Smisek, who joined Continental in 1995 and was chief executive officer during the merger talks. United’s fleet management group is overseen by Gerry Laderman, senior vice president of finance and treasurer, who joined Continental in 1988.

“It will be a nice win for Boeing and GE,” Jeff Sprague, co-founder of Stamford, Connecticut-based Vertical Research Partners, said in a telephone interview. “Although the new company is called United, it’s really being run by Continental management and they’ve always been a Boeing carrier. It was probably natural for them to go toward Boeing and CFM for fleet commonality.”

Boeing is trying to reclaim the top spot in commercial production lost to Airbus in 2003. Airbus had record orders of 1,419 aircraft last year, while Boeing’s tally was 805. Airbus has said 2012 orders may fall by half as an initial flurry of purchases of its A320neo wanes.

United is refreshing a single-aisle fleet that includes Boeing 757-200s, with an average age of 18.2 years, and 737-500s that average 16.6 years old. Boeing no longer makes either model.

Before the merger creating the new airline, UAL’s United agreed in December 2009 to split an order for 50 wide-body jets between Boeing and Airbus. That deal was for 25 Boeing 787 Dreamliners and the same number of Airbus A350s.

Rutger_F a écrit:Bonjour,

Elle court elle court la rumeur.
Jet Airways la moins mal en point des compagnies indiennes étudie l’achat d’une centaine d’A 320, Neo ou pas, rien ne permet d’affirmer ou d’infirmer.

Naresh Goyal qui n’a pas pour habitude de se répandre dans les médias fera peut-être une annonce à Farnborough. En tous cas il sera présent …

Sur un autre segment, la location d’une tranche supplémentaire d’A 330 si elle est confirmée, redonnera une certaine dynamique à ce programme, autant chez les lessors qui en ont commandé (et qui pourraient peut-être en reprendre) que chez Airbus, dont le rythme de ventes est bien inférieur aux prévisions de livraisons jusqu’en 2015.

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A mon sens, la déconfiture de Kingfisher et l’usine à gaz Air India ne sont pas une explication sur la probable commande de moyens courriers par Jet Airways.

Aucune mention n’est faite d’IndiGo, la compagnie mystère (la plupart d’entre nous ne sait pas car en l’absence de toute publication de résultats financiers audités comme de résultats de trafique, on pouvait légitimement à quoi correspondait la grosse et très précoce commande d’A 320 GTF de l’an dernier).

Terryan a écrit:Lion Air signerait 10 Boeing 787-8 en juin

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Cette Cie n'en fini pas

L'A330 n'avait pas la moindre chance, pas parcequ'il est choisi par Garuda mais Lion Air est devenu un client Boeing.

Bon...sur quelles routes ces 787-8 seront ( seraient ) exploités...?

Malyasia’s fast-growing low-cost carrier AirAsia (AK) is considering ordering more Airbus A320s until its A320neo aircraft arrive, CEO Tony Fernandes told ATW on the sidelines of Airbus Innovation Days in Toulouse, where he took delivery of the carrier’s 100^th A320.

AK ended last year’s Paris Air Show with a massive order for 200 A320neos, which should be available from 2015 ([Vous devez être inscrit et connecté pour voir ce lien]).

Fernandes told ATW he “has a sense to advance our order” but questions whether to buy or lease more A320s “because I don’t think our 175 aircraft are enough until the neo comes,” Fernandes said.

In December, AK will take delivery of an A320 manufactured at the Chinese Airbus facility in Tianjin, becoming the first non-Chinese carrier to receive an A320 from this facility.

Fernandes confirmed the airline will do a come-back to Europe when the A350-1000 arrives in 2015. “Hopefully it is not delayed,” he said.

AK transports about 33 million passengers annually. “We have an 80% load factor and added 12% capacity last year. We operate 720 daily flights within the system excluding Air Asia X,” Fernandes said.


Regarding growth opportunities, he said AK will add flights to Jeddah.

“I think the Maghreb area is very good for us, like Libya or Egypt. We are looking at Baghdad.

There are many places to go,” he said

China has begun ordering updated narrowbodies, with an unannounced contract for 30 Boeing 737 MAXs from Xiamen Airlines.

Although the agreement is not yet definitive, it confirms that Chinese carriers, with the presumed blessing of the government, will not wait for the finalization of the next five-year plan in late 2014 before ordering re-engined narrowbodies.

More Chinese orders for the 737 MAX and Airbus A320NEO family are expected in coming months.

The pressure to place such orders is now higher because other Chinese carriers will want equivalent aircraft in competing against Xiamen.

The Xiamen Airlines contract is subject to later government approval and is intended to secure delivery positions, says an executive with a manufacturer that will benefit from the deal.

The contract accompanied an order for 40 current-production 737-800s that the carrier announced on Aug. 3.

The publicly revealed order also is subject to government approval, but the authorities are likely to authorize it before they give the go-ahead for buying the MAXs. Industry executives say that one reason Xiamen Airlines and the government avoided publicity in securing MAX slots is a concern that Chinese orders for updated foreign aircraft imply an unwillingness to rely on the nominally comparable Comac C919, which is due to enter service in 2016.

China traditionally plans investment in commercial aviation, and much else in the economy, according to five-year plans.

The plan for 2016-20 should appear in late 2014, but by that time Airbus and Boeing may have few production slots for the re-engined aircraft for that period, forcing China to keep ordering the earlier models.

So industry officials have expected the country to break with tradition and begin securing slots before the 2016-20 plan is finalized.

Xiamen Airlines will use the 737-800s to increase capacity on domestic and international routes, Boeing says.

At list prices, the 40 aircraft are valued at $3.5 billion, though buyers typically negotiate discounts.

Xiamen Airlines is 51% owned by China Southern, which says its subsidiary will use bank loans and operating income to pay for the 737-800s.

Boeing wins a MAX customer from Airbus

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This is significant as Silkair is the first customer Boeing catched from Airbus. Silkair currently operates a fleet of 21 A320 with 3 more on order.
Until now it was Airbus who draw customers away from Boeing, the first one being American Airlines - prompting Boeing to announce the (then yet unnamed) B737MAX.
There are a lot more airline campaigns where one or the other is trying (or will try) to get a customer from "the other side". Another larger campaign where no decision is made (at least not publicly) is at Pegasus.
It is safe to say that the hard fight between the big two is drawing down prices, making it hard for others to compete - notably Bombardier with their CSeries. On the other hand there is not a single customer for the B737MAX-7 and only very limited success for the A319neo so far, so we cannot say for sure if sales for the CS300 are hindered by Airbus and Boeing. Bombardier recently was successful at AirBaltic. The airline opted for the CS300 instead of the A319neo or the B737MAX-7 (or maybe the Embraer E195).
After the CSeries will have had it's first flight with the first CS100 prototype - still scheduled for the end of the year - we will eventually see more orders for the canadian newcomer. But the price pressure, ignited by Airbus and Boeing, will still be there.

Philippine Airlines Inc. is set to place an order for "several dozen" Airbus (ABI.YY) jets next week, the single biggest order to be made by the country's largest full-service carrier, people familiar with the deal said Friday.

They said that top executives of PAL, as the airline is more popularly known, and the European aircraft manufacturer will meet with members of the media next week to discuss the details of the transaction. "The deal will involve new orders for fleet expansion," one of the people said.

It isn't clear yet what type of Airbus jets PAL will order.

Currently, PAL has a fleet of eight aircraft from Boeing Co.--three 777-300ERs and five 747-400s--and 31 Airbus jets comprising four A340-300s, eight A330-300s, 15 A320-200s, and four A319s.

PAL President Ramon Ang earlier this year announced pla, chez PALns to buy 100 new aircraft over the next five to seven years to update PAL's fleet.

The airline is currently awaiting the delivery of three more Boeing 777-300ERs.

Listed PAL Holdings Inc. (PAL.PH), the controlling shareholder of PAL, said in June its board had approved a capital increase that would allow it to issue new shares to raise 17 billion Philippine pesos ($403 million) to help bankroll the refleeting program.

Philippine Airlines commande 54 Airbus pour 7 milliards de dollars

La compagnie aérienne Philippine Airlines, qui dessert essentiellement l'Asie et la côte ouest-américaine, (PAL) a annoncé mardi une commande de 54 Airbus pour un prix catalogue de 7 milliards de dollars US.

La commande, "ferme", selon un communiqué d'Airbus, comprend 34 exemplaires du monocouloir A321, 10 A321 de nouvelle génération (Neo) et 10 long-courriers A330-300, livrables entre 2013 et 2015.

"Les commandes que nous passons à Airbus joueront un rôle central dans la revitalisation de PAL et la promotion du commerce et du tourisme dans ce pays", a déclaré le PDG de la compagnie, Lucio Tan, dans un communiqué.